Okay, this has been on our minds for a while.

[lordpat]

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Buff_ (May 26th, 2013, 6:16 am) • Kimonio (May 28th, 2013, 5:06 am) • SuYo1141 (May 26th, 2013, 6:06 am)

[SuYo1141]

^ I second that. I'm not the best speaker around here, he pretty much put my thoughts onto a better post. : P

[SuperMIC]

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Blablob (May 27th, 2013, 2:36 am)

[*Emelia K. Fletcher]

Eh.

Doesn't make a difference whether this topic is posted or not.

[Raz]

If it doesn't change anything I'll be dissapointed in the staff.

[~MP3 Amplifier~]

To me the forum cleanup was simply there to clean up the rules and the pages and topics that had been deserted and left. It might look like we're getting stricter, but we're actually not, we have the same rules as we always had- except cleared up a bit for newer members.

The actual discussion of changing the design of the rules topic and changing the About page etc will actually not affect you guys in the way you think it will. Really, the only changes that affected any members specifically were the group changes, and the vast, vast majority agreed with us there.

You can't say that we don't listen to you, or don't show respect to you. The very fact that we haven't already gone through with everything rules-wise and the fact that we didn't just change the groups secretly and waited for your opinions first means that we are allowing you guys to share your voices too. It's not just the mods; okay so we make the bigger decisions in F23 and stuff, but ultimately we are here to help you- and moderators are there to keep the site clean from spam and arguments or whatever else will come in the way of the forum. We don't use our power for bad reasons to piss the rest of you off and we certainly don't intend to power abuse.

Besides I think we have really good moderators on this site. The site that I used to go to had 14 really really strict rules, the age limits were younger yes, but whole projects by the members were getting deleted by mods for reasons such as "this is worthless junk" or "this is too off-topic", when tbh, rules like that vary in opinions between different mods. What one mod might think is junk, one might think is actually a decent topic to have around.
I can't remember how many times I campaigned there to get simple things changed, like topic limits and post lengths. A 50 word-long blog post is not enough, and no matter how many times we showed our disapproval of it, they continued to add more and more really unreasonable rules.

That's why I value this site so much. We actually manage it so so well and sometimes all it takes to realise that is a totally unfair ban from another site with a ♥♥♥♥ load of pointless rules that built up to a colossal number of pointless rules every month. That's what happened to me. If anyone here was gonna truly complain about a site because of its moderators and rules, it would be me. But I think the systems we have here are really fair for you.

I'm sorry that you feel so bad about all this, we really did want to make the forums a better place for you guys.

[Kimonio]

From an anarchaic point of view, I like the way the staff is set as it is. Every thing is balanced, no one has more power over anyone else.
If I was on staff, I'd add and change a few things, yes, but as it is, I prefer it this way.

At least the site isn't a dictatorship, right? We should at least be thankful for that.

And we all know if I had the power, I'd be Josef Stalin, so...yeah. Everything is the way it should be, and it should remain that way. I agree with the overhaul, albeit some things could be looked over and edited a bit, but it's all good.