LDC Polls/Votes

[~MP3 Amplifier~]

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Doram (August 15th, 2014, 6:33 pm)

[Karyete]

We've had 25 SM63 contests and only 1 LL contest. Give LL some lovin' :(

[Raz]

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Venexis (June 15th, 2014, 11:40 am)

[-BY]

People who're using the LL level designer are clearly in the minority on the site, though. It's somewhat predictable how this poll will end.
Ah well. Rooting for LL still.

[Nwolf]

we could do something like making a 6 weeks deadline for all LDCs and 2 weeks after deadline the LDC of the other game starts. Basically there would be 3 SM63 and 3 LLLDCs a year and nobody would fight each other because their game got more LDCs!

[~Yuri]

LL indeed needs more attention. I think alternating betwen LLLDCs and SM63 ones would be a good idea. Also, about the times betwen them, I think a new LDC should start one week and a half after the start of the judging phase of the current one.

[Venexis]

If it really takes that long again, then get new judges.

Just emphasizing this bit in particular, this is a huge turnoff for anyone not familiar with how these things typically drag on around here. That is to say, a huge turnoff for any members LL might draw to our community.

Also, extensions. Can we seriously start enforcing that ♥♥♥♥, it's got to a point that people don't even start until a day before the deadline because they know that 90% of the time they can get away with it.

[~MP3 Amplifier~]

I think extensions should only be allowed if you're on the verge of being finished.

Also, while I voted SM63 this time, I'm glad people want LL first. I'm still primarily a mario designer which is why I've played it safe in this poll. Whereas I'm happy with whatever we choose, the point is I would just like a structure and like Nwolf says we can alternate between the games. If judging takes a long time, we have permission to start the next LDC while still waiting for the previous one's results. Does that sound fair?

Sorry if I seem hurried I've just been waiting to do this topic for a while lol. :3

[CedarBranch]

LL needs "Lotsa Love."
I know I prefer SM53, yet I definitely agree Last Legacy deserves its attention too.

Also,

we could do something like making a 6 weeks deadline for all LDCs and 2 weeks after deadline the LDC of the other game starts. Basically there would be 3 SM63 and 3 LLLDCs a year and nobody would fight each other because their game got more LDCs!

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[Oranjui]

While we're on the topic of time constraints and extensions, shouldn't judges also have a deadline? We can't just let everyone hang in limbo waiting for their scores. Yeah, I know. Real life, etc -- but here's the thing. If you're judging an LDC, you're committing to it. You should really not have to make everyone wait more than maybe three weeks at the most. Extensions and replacements for them would be handled similarly to contestants (i.e. extensions only if the judge is almost done; replacements could be probably before submissions are cut off, as the judge should know whether or not they'll have the time to do their stuff by then), but the other judges would have to agree and allow it. The base judging deadline would be, say, 15 days after the contest ends? I feel like it's reasonable.

I know I haven't participated in many LDCs, but I follow many of them through. I've seen enough to know that restructuring the whole thing, maybe getting a schedule, will be



Pulling from what we have in place and what everyone has suggested, I'm going to propose a loose format (up for modification):
- Just under two months -- about 50 days, give or take a week -- is how long an LDC should have to take. A cooldown period of a week or two, depending on how quickly things get done, should space them apart adequately.
- LDCs will alternate between SM63 and LL to please everyone; 3 of each per year, starting at the same time of every other month.
- Somewhere from 25-35 days (about 4-5 weeks; about a month) are to be used for building levels, depending on the complexity of the theme and restrictions.
- Exactly 15 days, just over two weeks, are to be used for judging levels. This allows for reasonable room for contestant extensions before and judge extensions after this time frame, both of which are going to be strictly for those who actually need it.
- Contestant extensions are to be allowed if and only if the creator can 100% guarantee that their level is close to completion and WILL be complete within the extra time allotted. (7 days maximum?)
- Judge extensions of up to 7 days per judge may be allowed if the other judges consent. Reasons can vary as wildly as they like, but the other judges will have to validate it.
- Judges may be replaced up to the end of the first week of judging. If you decide you can't do it 40 days after the contest has begun, that's too bad. It's your responsibility to get it done somehow.
- If, somehow, an LDC takes the full 35 days of creating + 7 days of possible contestant extension + 15 days of judging + 7 days of possible judge extension (more than 60 days, or approximately 2 months), and possibly even more time for whatever other reasons, the next contest is most definitely allowed to begin prior to the official end of the contest in question.



I would be very excited with my fake OCD to see each contest starting on the rigid time schedule of the same day of every other month (probably the 1st, could be another day if we feel that needs to be different).