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Re: Site problem

Postby Blablob » August 15th, 2010, 6:30 am

Worst_master wrote:Not, I thnik you may give mroe chance, like warning, don't jsut ban automatically, liek someone say do what what and get a one day ban.

I almost never give bans right away, unless the offense is high enough.
Maybe liek Demonik, use say "sorry"........

I allow users to apologize, but most of the time they either don't or the offense is too high for an apology to simply end it.
No, I mean....some peopel do cut-off, lag....and many bad things............

Like I said, if a user has already broken some rules, then by making a spam level we can ban them. A flame level will simply increase that time of ban.
Not the rules on Rules topic, some small rules......Like MoY says (I'm sorry, but I....don't know I always heard thing from him.........) he needs to ban peopel automatically if they exit judging.....some rules liek thats.

Well, I think if users simply exit judging with no reason, then a small punishment is necessary.
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Re: Site problem

Postby Worst_master » August 15th, 2010, 6:57 am

Blablob wrote:
Worst_master wrote:Not, I thnik you may give mroe chance, like warning, don't jsut ban automatically, liek someone say do what what and get a one day ban.

I almost never give bans right away, unless the offense is high enough.
Maybe liek Demonik, use say "sorry"........

I allow users to apologize, but most of the time they either don't or the offense is too high for an apology to simply end it.
No, I mean....some peopel do cut-off, lag....and many bad things............

Like I said, if a user has already broken some rules, then by making a spam level we can ban them. A flame level will simply increase that time of ban.
Not the rules on Rules topic, some small rules......Like MoY says (I'm sorry, but I....don't know I always heard thing from him.........) he needs to ban peopel automatically if they exit judging.....some rules liek thats.

Well, I think if users simply exit judging with no reason, then a small punishment is necessary.

Well, acatally.....I am not say you, some other user.

And I mean some small fault can use apologize,but some mod rather use small punishment , I think:

Small things, like the rules not on rules topic.

Firstly, teach him that he shouldn't do this. --> If he flame on you --> Tell him do not do this again or will ban you (Warning) --> If do again-->Ban

Secondly, tell him to do not do it again, and say sorry--> Do not say sorry-->Tell him why he need to(Warning)--> Flaming again-->Ban

Thirdly, stop talking about it--> Keep argue-->Tell him if him keep argue, then you will get a ban-->Argue again--> Ban


Some middlely thing, liek flaming, spamming....

Firstly, tell him to read the rules propoblally-->do not read and blame you liek "I know, stupid guy...."-->Get a last chance/Small ban-->longer Ban

Secondly, tell him to do not do it again, and say sorry--> Do not say sorry-->Ban

Thirdly, stop talking about it--> Keep argue-->Tell him if him keep argue, then you will get a ban/Small ban-->Argue again-->longer Ban

Some big thing...like reregistering:

Automatically ban with a e-mail and get a long ban, very long, but not perma...I think perma is too harsh, a 2 month is already very long........
--> DO it again--> Permament.

And, let's back to the point, stop talking about the mods thing, the fortress of Awesome acatally saved the user that can in, but....I thnik we need to build mroe things for the new users.

New user, I thnik we may open a subforum in Welcoem opic, which new guys cna play there, and there will talk about our website's thing, and how to be a good user...etc.

And tell them post mroe, well, I am not tell them to PC+ing, post mroe and make mroe good post--> make the psot mroe post and bigger and bigger, so it will not make topic rust.-->
I think Suyo like to see many good topci flaoting on the forum and waiting user come in and starting discuss?

Third thing, more prizes, I thnik we can change punish(Small punish is needed, but....) to get prizes liek medals, if people do wrongly, they will not get prizes thing (IF THEY DID VERY WRONGLY, WILL GET BAN/WARN), if people did goodly, even they don't do good thing but they didn't break rules (This prize...I've think about it, I'm not telling everyone will ahve this prize, this prize will come when you're register, but gone if you get ban, after you do good thing again will get appear.)...........
--Try to not punish , rather award--> people will like our forum, I thnik that time no one will breaking rules again--> So our forum will get happy, not like now.....
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Re: Site problem

Postby Suyo » August 15th, 2010, 7:17 am

What. The. Hell.

Secondly, tell him to do not do it again, and say sorry

Alright. Someone just flamed an user and can revert everything by saying sorry.

Third thing, more prizes, I thnik we can change punish(Small punish is needed, but....) to get prizes liek medals, if people do wrongly, they will not get prizes thing (IF THEY DID VERY WRONGLY, WILL GET BAN/WARN)

...MEDALS? FOR BREAKING RULES? ARE YOU MAD!?!?

--Try to not punish , rather award--> people will like our forum, I thnik that time no one will breaking rules again--> So our forum will get happy, not like now.....

If you get awards for breaking rules, they will break rules. You just defeated your own logic.
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Re: Site problem

Postby Worst_master » August 15th, 2010, 7:56 pm

Superyoshi wrote:...MEDALS? FOR BREAKING RULES? ARE YOU MAD!?!?


May I...facepalm you?

Firstly, I'm giving the medals for the guys not breaking rules, have you hear?
Worst_master wrote:if people do wrongly, they will not get prizes thing


Worst_master wrote:(IF THEY DID VERY WRONGLY, WILL GET BAN/WARN)


Secondly:
Superyoshi wrote:Okay, let's nuke some rules!
Let's remove the NO FLAMING rule! Yay! Everyone flame as you like!

What about the bumping rule?
Oi, now we talk about Michael Jackson death again! YAAAY!

Or let's remove the spam rule! From now on 80% of all posts will be below 5 characters! YAAAAAAAAAY!

Worst_master wrote:the rules is unneeded

You thnik this rules is unneeded too?
Third:
Worst_master wrote:And, let's back to the point, stop talking about the mods thing,


We're now talking about building some new thing for new member.
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Re: Site problem

Postby MessengerOfDreams » August 15th, 2010, 8:22 pm

>_> I feel that this very pointed conversation can stop now because W_M is extremely wrong and nothing he can say right now will make it right. Thanks for telling us you think we do a bad job AGAIN. >_>
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Re: Site problem

Postby Worst_master » August 15th, 2010, 8:35 pm

Okay, I'm sorry of the pointed converstation, sorry because everyone don't understand..... Shall I say again, and do you really know what I say?

Who can tell me any suggestion is wrong?
1. Giving Medals to the peopel which haven't break rules, not for breaking rules, suyo, I know my english is bad, you get misunderstand.
2. Build some new thing for new member.
3. Remove some pointness rules, thnik about some, I'm taking about...the pointness, I'm sure Suyo'll not think flaming is a pointness rule, right?

mmm...I'm not you do a bad job now, but.... we can do it better.
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Re: Site problem

Postby Suyo » August 16th, 2010, 12:18 am

Worst_master wrote:Who can tell me any suggestion is wrong?
1. Giving Medals to the peopel which haven't break rules, not for breaking rules, suyo, I know my english is bad, you get misunderstand.
2. Build some new thing for new member.
3. Remove some pointness rules, thnik about some, I'm taking about...the pointness, I'm sure Suyo'll not think flaming is a pointness rule, right?


1. *coughRuleEnforcementMedalsalsocountifyoudidnotbreaktherulescough*
2. So just another forum for how to behave? What's the point? :/
3. ...define "pointless rules".
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Re: Site problem

Postby Worst_master » August 16th, 2010, 1:08 am

That medal may not put in Medals page, everyone have one, that medals, not just rules, everythingyou count, if they do wrong things, or their action is wrong, or be too harsh, you cna take their medal.
The point is...well, you build the FOA, well, yes, it make our access user fun, but make anotehr user that can't in is no fun, maybe make a forum in off-topic/welocme for guys that can't in FoA.

Pointness Rules, maybe you can say....loosen the rules.
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Re: Site problem

Postby MICrophone » August 16th, 2010, 4:16 am

MY TURN

All right, well, I can't say I've read every post in this topic so far because frankly, I'm too lazy. :D But let's start at your last post.

Suyo makes a good point about the medals for not breaking rules, which is that we have them. I agree that there is little point in "building" something for new members, like what? It's not like the Fortress of Awesome is really all that different or more fun then any other part of the forum. If anything, I think it would encourage new members to explore the rest of the forum, make posts, and enjoy themselves elsewhere until they have access, not to mention it encourages them to follow the rules so they can get in at 250 posts as opposed to 500.

As for the pointless rules, what pointless rules? You are being very vague about the subject. "Loosen the rules?" How? I don't really think there is a useless rule in existence right now.

I also gather just by reading through the last few posts that a lot of this is stemming from your opinion that some of the mods are too harsh in that they ban prematurely. For my edification, would you mind citing an example in which you felt the mods did something too harsh?
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Re: Site problem

Postby Worst_master » August 16th, 2010, 4:37 am

The medals thing..is jsut for encourage the new users....I can't thnik a idea, sorry.

The mod harsh thing, I am not tell you're harsh, you both are good but if you loosen their actions or otehr thing will encourage them to do better.

Well, okay, let's reply to yours, okay, let's forget the mods harsh thing/loosen the rules thing because...u know.

I thnik we may get more fun to "encourage" the new member and make the forum being very noisy again.

We may make more fun things to make them fun on posting more so the topic will not rust and they'll have fun on the topics.

ANd hope that they're relaly liek to psot like me, not liek TBG said he is jsut posting and psoting without a direction like my past.
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