Undertale

[KABOOM]

Not a 20 second loop (spoilers): show

I think that this has already been posted somewhere in this topic, but who cares I'm posting it anyway.

[Karyete]

Well yes that one's pretty good. Doesn't count though.

[Zunar]

So a friend bought me the game the other day, and I just finished my first playthrough. I played mostly pacifist but there were a couple bosses nothing else was working on, so I ended up killing them.

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One of those was Toriel, at the beginning. I felt so bad Especially at the end when Asgore was talking about his wife... I'm putting that together, right?

Undyne too. Didn't feel quite as guilty. I tried, but nothing seemed to be working.

I spared Asgore at the end of his battle, but then goddamn Flowey out of nowhere. Creepy as hell. I did not feel the SLIGHTEST pang of guilt for murdering you, you asshat. And how the hell did you come back to life when I fought Asgore again? What a cheater.

For the record, had 2 deaths: Mettaton EX and Asgore.

I expected the game to be longer honestly, but I'm not complaining. So much is packed into the five hours of my first playthrough that I honestly don't even care. 10/10 would play again (and probably will, at the very least to kill Asgore at the end because Flowey is an absolute douche)

I see why everyone loves this game. Add one more person to that list. I still doesn't quite trump Trails in the Sky, but it's damn close. Best game I got for free, that's for sure.

[NanTheDark]

Actually I do recommend you give it at least one more playthrough. Maybe there's some things you could figure out.

[Zunar]

With some help from a friend (they know who they are), I completed a pacifist run.

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I ended up fighting Asgore twice before I was told I missed something important, namely hanging out with Papyrus and the subsequent sequence of events (Undyne, True Lab, etc). I figured out that Alphys created Flowey before the game implied it. I never really liked Alphys (especially after seeing what happens between her and Undyne... ugh), so that just makes me like her even less.

The fight against Asriel was cool, but I felt maybe he was just a tad bit OP. I mean I know you can't really die, but it still seemed a bit much to me. I still hate Flowey though. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Asriel; Flowey and Asriel are not the same, despite what the game might make you think.

I do like the ending however. Nobody dies and everyone's happy. For reference, I stayed with Toriel. I may load my save back up someday and see if I can simply choose the other option just out of curiosity, but I'm not sure if the game will let me.

To be frank, I kinda like the neutral run a bit better than pacifist. Not because you can kill people, but because I enjoy the fight against Asgore more than the fight against Asriel. Maybe it's just the music, but it just feels more epic to me. It fills me with DETERMINATION, whereas the Asriel fight fills me with feels. I don't count Flowey as the final boss of neutral because he's a massive prick and you don't fight him again on a second playthrough (at least, I haven't fought him again).

The extra stuff for the pacifist ending felt more like padding than real content to me honestly (though I have to admit, hanging out at Undyne's house was pretty funny). True Lab was kind of a pain and just plain creepy (another reason I've grown to dislike Alphys), and the final boss gauntlet also seemed a bit drawn out and longer than it really needed to be. That might just be me though, it's actually been over a week since I completed the pacifist run so I may be remembering wrong.

Basically, to sum up, my favorite way to play the game is pacifist but with the neutral ending, sans the Omega Flowey fight.

I don't have the masochism or curiosity to do a genocide run. If I get that curious I'll watch a Let's Play or something, but I'm definitely not doing one myself.

[NanTheDark]

About the Pacifist Ending: show

It's impossible to get the true Pacifist ending without first going through "Neutral". You do have to fight Asgore and Photoshop Flowey at least once. Then, if you spared Flowey, Flowey gives you hints as to how to get a better ending after Sans is finished talking to you on the phone. If you did spare everyone, then he'll tell you about Undyne and Papyrus.But if you did spare everyone and also have those dates, THEN the Alphys date and True Lab are unlocked (it's kind of implied that this is because Flowey uses his influence on Papyrus to get Undyne to write the letter and get you to go to the Lab and whatever). So no matter what you do have to go through Asgore at least once.

And Asriel is about feels really.

Pacifist, if you chose differently: show

If you want to know, not staying with Toriel just replaces the cutscene with a photograph of Frisk with all of their friends.

About the other route: show

About Genocide. It might actually be faster than Pacifist, if you're good enough. Some stuff about Genocide:
-Puzzles are gone for the most part. You don't have to solve them.
-You get some lore you don't get in other routes.
-It gets... depressing. If you are the kind of person who gets all emotional over stuff I don't recommend playing this route. You'll be killing characters you might have gotten attached to after all.
-It's not exactly harder. For the most part it's actually easier because you're grinding and getting stronger, more HP and stuff. But monsters for the most part aren't really stronger, except for two bosses unique to Genocide who are super hard.

[Zunar]

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It's impossible to get the true Pacifist ending without first going through "Neutral". You do have to fight Asgore and Photoshop Flowey at least once.

I think that's partially why I like the neutral ending better. The fight against Asgore is really climactic, so I feel anything past that is more like "post-game" stuff rather than actual game content.

Then, if you spared Flowey, Flowey gives you hints as to how to get a better ending after Sans is finished talking to you on the phone.

I murdered that son of a bee and I don't feel the slightest bit guilty about it. Yet even though I killed him he still stopped me after I re-fought Asgore to kill him out of curiosity. I mean if Flowey was gonna kill him anyway, it wouldn't matter in the end. But nooooo, Flowey has to be a prick and troll me.

[NanTheDark]

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I don't blame you, Flowey is a jerk.

[ShadeRaider]

He may be a jerk but his story ark is amazing

[ChaosYoshi]

Got the game as a gift a few weeks ago, and while it's rather short, it's probably one of my favorite games that came out last year. I'm thinking of letting my sister play this game when I get home.

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I also love how meta this game gets, like how Flowey calls people out for watching a genocide playthrough instead of getting their own hands dirty.

And yes, I finally posted on here for the first time in months.