It's a matter of time

[~MP3 Amplifier~]

Wow, Ven's problem back then doesn't seem all that different from mine right now. o.o (except I can guarantee good sleep, well I'd sleep all the time if I could)
And it's nice that lots of people have decided to contribute here. I was nearly forced into taking medication last year which scared me a lot because the last thing I want is to end up like my dad.

[NanTheDark]

This is probably gonna sound mean and stupid, but I have to ask,

Why is there so much people in this site with depression problems? It amazes me sometimes.

Please don't hate me I was just saying

[~MP3 Amplifier~]

1 in 4 people suffer mental illness according to statistics. And many of us here rely on this website a lot, and find freedom on the internet (or at least I do). So I'm not at all surprised.

[NanTheDark]

I'm not sure if depression should be considered a mental illness, but ok...

[~MP3 Amplifier~]

...

Depression is a mental illness. Not considered one. It actually is one.
It can be anything from bipolar and manic depression to severe and major depressive disorder. It's not just one specific thing, it's actually a category of disorders.

[JSlayerXero]

Of course, this is just my experience and there is more to the story- I may not have needed pills at all, just a while to properly accept certain events in my life at the time. However, I do feel like everyone who is writing them off as unsafe should consider this: Do the relatively few people who experience side effects (and the much smaller percentage of people who suffer severe reactions in response to such medication) invalidate the vast majority who are able to resume normal lives after a few months taking them?

I can see where you're coming from. I've already posted my source as to why I'm against them. To offer a counter-question, is it really worth risking people potentially getting affected by homicidal or suicidal ideation; both of which not only stop them from resuming normal lives, but can result in the ending of life? The source I posted also mentioned the only reason for ADHD pills, stated by the person who came up with it, was to starts kids on drug addiction. The pharmacy has a history of being malicious, even if the doctors and psychiatrists aren't. They might not even know any better because they were taught prescribe drug Q when patient has illness V. Although I can't remember whether I read that myself or listened to some one around here doing research on big pharma. Whether it would require winning the lottery for the negatives or the positives, I'd rather not risk it in general when it comes to pharmaceuticals. Maybe it's just me. Maybe I'm an idiot. Maybe I'm right. My opinion doesn't mean anything unless you want it to.

[Kimonio]

As someone who takes anti-depressants as well for anxieties and stress, it does come with particular side effects, like insomnia or inducing sleep, headaches, sometimes it can change personality if OD or you quit them instead of weening when a doctor says to. There really aren't much cases where they can clash with the person, unless the person has a medical history that may hinder them from taking in particular chemical compounds.

This is probably gonna sound mean and stupid, but I have to ask,

Why is there so much people in this site with depression problems? It amazes me sometimes.

Please don't hate me I was just saying

No need to feel stupid or mean, you raised a valid question. Which I can try to answer as best as I can...
Depression is caused by a variety of factors, if not genetics at times. But more commonly it happens due to the environment around us. Maybe we have seen ♥♥♥♥ we should never have seen, maybe we were bullied, maybe our self-esteem is super low. Maybe we have a bad self-image of ourselves. Maybe we wonder our meaning on the world, and that in turn forces us to question life and why we do not cease to exist as a human being. This all leads to depression, which is basically a really low mood where a person feels like absolute ♥♥♥♥, to the point they just go "♥♥♥♥ it" and don't do a thing. It can cause a person to eat/stop eating(in this case, I have no appetite), it can hinder sleep, it can make a person cranky or moody, it can make a person feel pain in their body when they move, and it can even cause a sense of self-worth, or lack thereof. We all come from different backgrounds in real life. Some of us have underlying disorders that can trigger depression if clashing with the wrong circumstances. Some of us have been abused, molested, raped, or have gotten into the wrong crowd. Some of us cut, some of us drink, some of us smoke. Depression can happen to anybody, because depression is basically sadness. HOWEVER, depression can also become very very bad, and last for days on end, making it a disorder then, as Amp explained.

[Venexis]

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Dtroid (January 10th, 2014, 12:26 am)

[JSlayerXero]

That being said, your counter-question is akin to asking if we should go outside to enjoy the sunlight- knowing fully well that UV radiation from the sun is well known for causing cancer without the proper precautions.

I would call this idea out for being stupid but I'm sure nobody would listen to me because I can't remember sources to save my life.

Are there any less invasive/more effective alternatives? ... Research online. If nothing else, you'd verify that the doctor is trustworthy and knows what he's talking about.

I've read of natural ways to cure cancer that has been said to cure many forms of it but nobody puts money into it because it isn't profitable even if it does work. It's all natural. I'd trust nature long before I trust humanity.

I do not mean to disrespect you, Xero, but we will never have a perfect society- if we did, such treatment would be unneeded.

While I call bogus on the sun causing cancer, on that assumption, society has nothing to do with that unless you assume humans are responsible for nature being corrupted. Being a creationist I do, but I question the importance in this discussion.

I see this has become a wall of text again, so perhaps we should continue this via private messaging or Doram's topic. I do enjoy a good debate, but multiple paragraphs tend to be intimidating, and this seems to be going off on slight tangent.

I've been keeping my responses as short because I know I can drone on when unnecessary. I'd still rather try something other than man-made drugs if it's possible. Call me an insane idiot if it makes you feel better. I'm stubborn, so it might be better to no mentioning my name in your response.

Edit: As an expert in acting like an idiot, I'm sorry for being the useless one. I realized the topic got derailed to me, so I was trying to stop that. Sorry for not finding a nicer way to voice myself. I guess exaggeration isn't welcome here.

[darthbrowser]

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ChaosYoshi (January 10th, 2014, 5:28 pm) • Dtroid (January 10th, 2014, 2:10 am) • Kimonio (January 10th, 2014, 4:10 am)