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Re: Gay Marriage

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Postby ~MP3 Amplifier~ » June 30th, 2012, 7:41 am

Yeah what Nin said. I'm a catholic and I have no problem with homosexuals whatsoever. In fact catholic beliefs are all about 'love thy neighbour' and whatnot so i can't see how those catholics would think this way about a person because it just makes them hypocrites. I bet I'm the only theist here and I don't believe in any of this discrimination. I just believe there's a God who wants the best for us all, no matter who we are.

And if anyone comes back at this post and starts to say that the idea of a God is complete and utter crap argumentatively then a friendly warning will be handed. :> However if you wish to deny the idea of God in a non-aggressive way just so we can have a debate and say our thoughts on it then that's welcome, except we'd kinda be going off-topic. :3

Anyway, just felt this needed to be said.
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby ChaosYoshi » June 30th, 2012, 12:32 pm

~MP3 Amplifier~ wrote:Yeah what Nin said. I'm a catholic and I have no problem with homosexuals whatsoever. In fact catholic beliefs are all about 'love thy neighbour' and whatnot so i can't see how those catholics would think this way about a person because it just makes them hypocrites. I bet I'm the only theist here and I don't believe in any of this discrimination. I just believe there's a God who wants the best for us all, no matter who we are.

And if anyone comes back at this post and starts to say that the idea of a God is complete and utter crap argumentatively then a friendly warning will be handed. :> However if you wish to deny the idea of God in a non-aggressive way just so we can have a debate and say our thoughts on it then that's welcome, except we'd kinda be going off-topic. :3

Anyway, just felt this needed to be said.

I'm really agnostic, so I can't deny that. It does seem a bit strange of how some Catholics, for example (not applying to all you Catholics), just try to hurl the burden of the world on top of them just because it's the first thing they see about that person that comes to mind that also goes with the Bible. This goes with many other religions and sects, so not every Christian and/or Catholic is a ♥♥♥♥.
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby Lederp » July 9th, 2012, 11:46 am

And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?

29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

So if you truly,strongly believe in the bible,shouldn't you tolerate and love all others,even if their sexual,spiritual,or other beliefs are different from yours?
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Re: Gay Marriage

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Postby Doram » August 24th, 2012, 5:38 pm

No. No. No. You don't understand. People don't use the Bible to make the world a better place. People use the Bible to justify their hatred and persecution of whoever they don't like. It's really great for that. Especially when you take everything out of context. God is angry, spiteful, and vindictive. See? It's all right there in the Old Testament. It even has formulas for how much a slave is worth. See? God has done all the math for us too. Jesus hated lots of things too. See? The word hate is in there a lot. That must mean something. We should be hateful too. That's it!
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The only thing more amazing than the message of Jesus, is how horribly some of His followers have twisted it into something ugly. No, not every Christian is a violently bigoted hypocrite, but a bunch are, and they tend to be very loud about it too.

I was thinking about this very thing a day or two ago, and I thought to myself: "Do they think black people should be slaves? No. Do they think women shouldn't be able to vote? No. So, why do they think gays shouldn't marry? I don't know." And the sad answer is that there ARE people out there that think that every civil rights movement of the last century and a half is wrong, and must be undone. And there are a lot of them. And to a smart, kind, and modern citizen of the world such as myself, that is unimaginably, inconsolably sad.
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby Raz » August 24th, 2012, 5:42 pm

Doram wrote:No. No. No. You don't understand. People don't use the Bible to make the world a better place. People use the Bible to justify their hatred and persecution of whoever they don't like. It's really great for that. Especially when you take everything out of context. God is angry, spiteful, and vindictive. See? It's all right there in the Old Testament. It even has formulas for how much a slave is worth. See? God has done all the math for us too. Jesus hated lots of things too. See? The word hate is in there a lot. That must mean something. We should be hateful too. That's it!
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The only thing more amazing than the message of Jesus, is how horribly some of His followers have twisted it into something ugly. No, not every Christian is a violently bigoted hypocrite, but a bunch are, and they tend to be very loud about it too.

I was thinking about this very thing a day or two ago, and I thought to myself: "Do they think black people should be slaves? No. Do they think women shouldn't be able to vote? No. So, why do they think gays shouldn't marry? I don't know." And the sad answer is that there ARE people out there that think that every civil rights movement of the last century and a half is wrong, and must be undone. And there are a lot of them. And to a smart, kind, and modern citizen of the world such as myself, that is unimaginably, inconsolably sad.


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Re: Gay Marriage

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Re: Gay Marriageh

Postby Ridder » August 25th, 2012, 3:51 pm

The worst a Blackie can get is Uber-Ghettofied Junkie Nigga.
The worst a Woman can get is table flipping, behind-your-backtalking whore.

Now, Gender and Skin Color have been pretty easy Civil Rights to deal with, because the opposition were usually comprised of self-righteous pricks who felt threatened. Activists for those causes could be as douchey as they want, and a majority of them would b seen as doing the right thing. Not all of them, of course, but most of them, I think.

Now, Gay Marriage, on the other hand, is kind of a tricky topic. I mean, there are gigantic sexual implications, and I figure most anti-gays aren't alright with the idea of midnight sausage fests. There's also the fact that a lot of Pro-Gay Advocates don't exactly seem... smart.

Nowadays, it seems to me a lot of people don't get the ideas of " peaceful protests" or "acceptance".

A lot of "peaceful protesters" from where I come from tend to be the most verbally abusive ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ever, and some are stupid enought to think that "Oh, your boss is Anti-Gay. You and the establishment you work for must be Anti-Gay as well. ♥♥♥♥ you. You should feel ashamed of yourself." Of course, a hefty amount of people on the other side of the fence tend to do stupid ♥♥♥♥ too.

See, I tend to not get involved in stuff like this because I have no real opinions or sides which I clearly like to take. I'm okay with gays, but a sexual approach by a person of a similar gender to mine just creeps me out.





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Re: Gay Marriage

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Re: Gay Marriageh

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Postby Doram » August 25th, 2012, 6:22 pm

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Don't get me started on modern "Activism".

Activism should be about fighting for what you believe in, but it should also be about caring and wanting to make the world a better place. Are you making the whole world a better place when you protest abortion? NO. There are cases where abortion is at least mildly justifiable. Gonna kill the mother? Maybe a good idea. Got raped lately? Maybe a good idea. No no no. You should get rid of the pure evils first. Really. Protest Genocide. Protest Oppression. Support the poor and the hungry and the homeless. Do something that actually makes people's lives better every time. Once all of that is taken care of, then you can move on to smaller and greyer areas of life.

Activism. More like thinly veiled propaganda.

EDIT: Sorry. I was reading about some people talking about the murder of Dr. Tiller, and had anti-abortion maniacs on the brain. I realize I was a bit off topic there, but gay marriage is even less offensive than abortion in the grand scheme of things, so the argument stands.
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby Killswitch » August 26th, 2012, 8:50 pm

I support it. I think all of us have the right to marry regardless of our genders.
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