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Bullying is not okay.

Postby Americankid » June 25th, 2013, 10:43 am

Bullying is not okay.

Anything besides Runow, let me teach you something. When I was outside there these kids pants me down, cause at people of young age. People can hit spit and do all kinds of stuff. Also any sexual remarks, cyber bullying, if you are a bully's age, here's a tip:
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Walk away from them.Tell an adult.Or just ignore.

Also even in channels or TV, they say that bulling is not okay.
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Postby Karyete » June 25th, 2013, 12:10 pm

Bullying has been an issue for years and is practically impossible to get rid of. It is unavoidable, and bullying isn't that much of a concern if it's verbal and the victim couldn't care less.
But yes, ignoring/reporting them is the best option generally. Standing up to them is also good.
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Postby lordpat » June 25th, 2013, 2:43 pm

While it may be impossible to get rid of, that shouldn't mean that it cannot be reduced greatly, or at least, treat it properly.

Reporting it is quite possibly the best thing you can do, just telling an adult that has power in their hands can really help. It is important to understand that bullying isn't just something that happens randomly. There is a social and psychological meaning to this phenomena, which is probably as old as time. Bullies usually need to release their feelings and frustrations through violence since they lack other means, either by economical, social or psychological pressure.

Sometimes it is important to know that adults can make stuff worse. When they start to interfere without your concern, (happened to me) not only does it not help you to stand up but it also increases the tension within the bullies. And that can lead to more chaos. The best way to deal with bullying to me is making a meeting and trying to understand the bully as much as the victim. He has his motives, he has his reasons for being who he is, and punishing him won't really do anything more than increase his/her frustration. That is why the bully is also partially a victim.

I will tell you my personal bullying experience, which sucked indeed. It may not be the worst, but it clearly shows the 'I had it and lost it' stuff. My class was divided on two: my friend group and my non-friend group. On this 'non-friend' group there were a couple of idiots that just insulted me psychologically, that either I did not care or could stand up againts. But my friends slowly turned to the other group, they started to insult me as well. And they formed one sole group within the class that I was the only one I was not in. All of them (specially my ex-friends) constantly made my life hell both physically and psychologically (more of the latter though). I felt really weak, I couldn't stop crying and I felt completely alone. It was hard as damn to deal with all that, it was me against 8 douches. Then the headmistress arrived, and it made everything so much worse. I was embarrassed on this situation, so I could not tell any adults about it, but more sooner than later the teacher found out and told the headmistress. She decided to severely punish some of the douches (without my concern of course) and they just ended up being angrier at me. What was I gonna do, tell the headmistress that they were doing it again? She only made it worse last time. Luckily the year was almost over, so I very barely got by and when I entered high-school I grabbed all my elementary stuff and threw it right were it belonged: to the trash bin. I can't deny how crappy it was though and how it still affects me nowadays.

Easily and by far, the thing I did wrong was feeling ashamed about myself. I hope my experience serves for others: there is nothing wrong with asking for help. You do need it and it is foolish to believe that any problem can be solved just by yourself. Don't think of it as something running away, but just taking another route to the solution. You decide not to take a direct confrontation because that does not seem to work. If you do not ask for help not only it may never be solved, but adults may start to sneak their noses in and just make everything worse.

Bullying is not ok. We can do all in our resources to stop it. If you are being bullied, do something about it. If a friend of yours is being bullied, do something about it (talk to him I'd usually recommend). If you are/were the bully, just know it is never late to redeem yourself and apologize to people. We do appreciate that.
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Postby NanTheDark » June 25th, 2013, 4:41 pm

Bullying can cause some serious damage to a person, whether it is physical or psychological. It's wrong. However, something happens every now and then, and I hate to hear it.

When people try to justify the bullies.

They say that maybe they have problems in their family, they are frustrated, or whatever. I just have to say, NO MATTER HOW SCREWED UP THEY MIGHT BE, THEY'RE STILL HURTING PEOPLE. It's like the Sandman in the third Spiderman movie. Her daughter's dying, so it's totally ok to become a criminal and kill people and stuff, right? Nope. It's the same logic. HURTING OTHER PEOPLE ISN'T GOING TO HEAL YOU. Unless you have the Blood Sword or something

Bullies deserve to be punished for what they do. Sure, maybe as little kids they don't realize all the bad things they're doing, but that's when the adults have to step in and talk about it. If the bullies are older, like I dunno, middle school-level and beyond, they know pretty damn well they're doing something considered wrong. But they keep doing it. And that might be for many reasons, but either way, they're being massive jerks. And that can't be tolerated.

If someone's bullying someone, sure, you report that and all, but considered how crappy school systems tend to be you are probably not going to get rid of them (unless you are in a school which is actually good in this aspect)... there's a number of things you can do: just avoid them, ignore them, stick with other people, and whatnot. Bullies always tend to hit in packs, so they are sure to "strike", so to speak, and so they have an "audience". And there you get the Bystander Effect. For some stupid reason there can be a lot of unrelated people witnessing someone being bullied and won't do crap. And that's stupid because all of these people could stop the bully, help the victim, or just freaking tell on the guy. And if you're being actively attacked by someone you have to get that point across. Get that kid expelled. You can't let yourself be hurt.

I would recommend to avoid fighting if possible (and if you don't know how. In that case, try landing a kick to the crotch. It works wonders :awe: ), but if you're getting attacked and you could get injured, you gotta defend yourself. Or if you're outnumbered, just run. And preferably run somewhere you can get help, not just some random place to hide.
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Postby Bogdan » June 26th, 2013, 1:42 am

As someone who was, is and probably will still be bullied by others around me I can tell you that you are the single one who can solve the problem. During my elementary school (1-4) + a bit of 5th grade I was constantly bullied by classmates who pretended to be "cooler, stronger and better" than me. I am a physically weak person and going to fight with them would end up with either my limbs broken, injuries, etc, so I decided to tell an adult, mostly the teachers but that didn't solved much and because they were the majority they found a way to make me look as the "bad" one. I told my parents, but they replied to me that if they will try to help me in front of them isn't gonna solve much and it will also give them satisfaction because of me being desperate for help. They stole my pants, spitted me and more worse things I don't even want to mention. I changed school in the second semester of the 5th grade and things changed a bit, but again I couldn't avoid bullies and usually you feed them when you either reply (yes, every single "you idiot" feeds them) or when you try to show resistance. I just retreat in a corner and ignored everyone else who wanted to make fun or laugh at me until I tought I was mentally ready to continue my way. I don't mind what they are saying behind or in front of me now, they can say whatever they want, everytime I hear a "you're dumb/gay/an idiot/etc" it makes me feel superior. Why would you want to get the rid of someone who you consider no treat to you? That's just my point of view.

As a suggestion just try meditating and ignore everything around you until you calm yourself. And by meditating I don't mean to isolate yourself from your friends and the society, just avoid the black sheeps of it. Or simply find other activities to do, for example find a quiet park/any one place and read a book (that was my primary activity in breaks of 6th grade).
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Postby *Emelia K. Fletcher » June 26th, 2013, 6:40 am

You know what I do when I get bullied?

Respond back.

I usually have a few retorts to keep them on their toes.


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Postby Raz » June 26th, 2013, 7:04 am

Mk that's how you make it worse.
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Postby nin10mode » June 26th, 2013, 7:22 am

The one instance that I was bullied, I brought a blunt metal object. Sure, I almost got suspended,but they don't bother me anymore.

Don't do what I do, I'm usually very extremist when dealing with personal problems.
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Postby *Emelia K. Fletcher » June 26th, 2013, 7:38 am

Raz wrote:Mk that's how you make it worse.

That's clearly not how I make it worse if it works.


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Postby Raz » June 26th, 2013, 8:01 am

All it does is make them bully you more. You tell someone, not make it worse by attacking them back, making you also the bully. Which means you both suffer consequences if a teacher/guardian finds out.
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Karyete: I don't have anything to say to you, I've been deliberately trying to not offend you for years, actually, but apparently everything I say to you is wrong. You come across as so aggressive that you successfully intimidated me into not wanting to talk to you
Karyete: Seriously, what is your problem? And not only that, you fail to even acknowledge you might be in some wrong here.
Karyete: Oooh it's you? Hello. Feel free to drop this right now. You're going to make yourself look like an idiot.
Karyete: We don't want to hear your opinion at this stage.
Karyete: You're not getting any apology, especially after now.
Karyete: You can stay up on your high horse, continue to twist the truth and act like an absolute child all you want. I refuse to give respect to a man who right now is picking up a dropped argument because he simply cannot fathom the idea that he might be in the wrong.
Karyete: How pathetic
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