Hey, guys!
So, I have a question for you: do you think the educational system works on your country? do you think it could be improved somehow?
It is a very interesting topic to talk about, so I think it could be brought up.
The Educational System
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Re: The Educational System
by blue » August 9th, 2013, 6:48 pm
I think you mean how does it work.
Anyways, what system? We have lots of educational resources and students in Toronto...
University? College? High School?
Anyways, what system? We have lots of educational resources and students in Toronto...
University? College? High School?
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Re: The Educational System
by lordpat » August 9th, 2013, 6:56 pm
Sorry, I should have cleared it up.
Whatever you may want to talk about or you may find interesting to discuss.
I will start with a more precise question then. Do you think the public High School system works well on your country? Here in Bs As it is pretty weak. It is not rare to find schools with cellings literarly falling down, and schools out of gas or light. It is quite sad regarding the amount of money that the city state uses to subside private schools. Oh well.
What do you think? Should private schools be subsided by the state?
Whatever you may want to talk about or you may find interesting to discuss.
I will start with a more precise question then. Do you think the public High School system works well on your country? Here in Bs As it is pretty weak. It is not rare to find schools with cellings literarly falling down, and schools out of gas or light. It is quite sad regarding the amount of money that the city state uses to subside private schools. Oh well.
What do you think? Should private schools be subsided by the state?
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Re: The Educational System
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by nin10mode » August 9th, 2013, 7:36 pm
Schools work differently in each country. A lot of countries have the students all stay in one classroom while the teachers rotate.
Here in American public schools, the students move from class to class, and the teachers stay in their designated rooms unless they teach several subjects, depending on the size of your school. You normally get a locker so you don't have to carry all your homework and books to and from each class. You usually have eight classes for the year from Roughly August-September to May-June. Teachers get little pay, though they it's a stable job (if you teach for a certain number of years, you are guaranteed to keep it for another ten years or so. There's a term for this, though it escapes my mind at the moment). Their pay comes from taxes.
Schools are definitely different from town to town or city to city. For example, I have what is called block scheduling, where I take four classes one semester(fall-winter) and the other four the next(spring summer). The classes are twice as long as they would be if we had the usual system. Another example is that I don't have a Study Hall option for a class, and apparently next year, there will be more than one Physical Education course, each focusing on different things (self defense, pure training, healthy living on your own, contact sports, etc).
For the most part, I'm happy with my school life and how my education is turning out. The teachers that I get are for the most part, active, helpful, friendly, and experienced. I was introduced to block scheduling my first year in highschool, and I can say it's a lot more relaxing than the eight classes a day I had in middle school.
I've been through non-honors classes and I can say that the teaching staff is not always good. Some give us a worksheet and just have us work on it for the period. Some read from the book. These aren't good teaching techniques.
So what can I say? I think the American System could be better if all public school had the same system as mine; eight classes, split in half over the two semesters. It lets learn at your own pace, it allows your class to last longer lets both the teacher and the students get more involved and get into group work. I can't get what I think is a lot done in 45 minutes, and I doubt many people can either.
Speaking of that, I think the standards for teaching should be higher. If everyone taught like they did in some of my honors classes(well-made powerpoint presentations, lecturing, groupwork, activities) I think kids' grades in general would be a lot higher. For that to happen, the teachers need to be paid more, and there will need to be better qualifications required to teach as a job. Currently, teaching in public schools is one of the lowest paying jobs ever.
I can't give input on my opinion of afterschool clubs since I've never been in one, nor can I speak for our private schooling or college/university-system. I don't think the SAT, or any standardized tests in general should have such a great impact on what college you can get scholarships to though.
I've seen some private schools, and I can't say I've ever seen a really poor public school in comparison (my public school is two floors, has working lights, water, etc, well maintained classrooms and labs, a large amount of land for sports, and tons of parking space, though our heating and cooling has a habit of breaking and the gym lockers are abused). I'm not sure how schools get their budgets(most likely through fundraising and club/extracurricular activity), but I can say what my school is doing to pay for maintenance works. Thus I can't say whether or not I support the idea of state-subsidized private schools.
Here in American public schools, the students move from class to class, and the teachers stay in their designated rooms unless they teach several subjects, depending on the size of your school. You normally get a locker so you don't have to carry all your homework and books to and from each class. You usually have eight classes for the year from Roughly August-September to May-June. Teachers get little pay, though they it's a stable job (if you teach for a certain number of years, you are guaranteed to keep it for another ten years or so. There's a term for this, though it escapes my mind at the moment). Their pay comes from taxes.
Schools are definitely different from town to town or city to city. For example, I have what is called block scheduling, where I take four classes one semester(fall-winter) and the other four the next(spring summer). The classes are twice as long as they would be if we had the usual system. Another example is that I don't have a Study Hall option for a class, and apparently next year, there will be more than one Physical Education course, each focusing on different things (self defense, pure training, healthy living on your own, contact sports, etc).
For the most part, I'm happy with my school life and how my education is turning out. The teachers that I get are for the most part, active, helpful, friendly, and experienced. I was introduced to block scheduling my first year in highschool, and I can say it's a lot more relaxing than the eight classes a day I had in middle school.
I've been through non-honors classes and I can say that the teaching staff is not always good. Some give us a worksheet and just have us work on it for the period. Some read from the book. These aren't good teaching techniques.
So what can I say? I think the American System could be better if all public school had the same system as mine; eight classes, split in half over the two semesters. It lets learn at your own pace, it allows your class to last longer lets both the teacher and the students get more involved and get into group work. I can't get what I think is a lot done in 45 minutes, and I doubt many people can either.
Speaking of that, I think the standards for teaching should be higher. If everyone taught like they did in some of my honors classes(well-made powerpoint presentations, lecturing, groupwork, activities) I think kids' grades in general would be a lot higher. For that to happen, the teachers need to be paid more, and there will need to be better qualifications required to teach as a job. Currently, teaching in public schools is one of the lowest paying jobs ever.
I can't give input on my opinion of afterschool clubs since I've never been in one, nor can I speak for our private schooling or college/university-system. I don't think the SAT, or any standardized tests in general should have such a great impact on what college you can get scholarships to though.
I've seen some private schools, and I can't say I've ever seen a really poor public school in comparison (my public school is two floors, has working lights, water, etc, well maintained classrooms and labs, a large amount of land for sports, and tons of parking space, though our heating and cooling has a habit of breaking and the gym lockers are abused). I'm not sure how schools get their budgets(most likely through fundraising and club/extracurricular activity), but I can say what my school is doing to pay for maintenance works. Thus I can't say whether or not I support the idea of state-subsidized private schools.
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Re: The Educational System
by Bogdan » August 10th, 2013, 5:20 am
I'll sum it up, our gouverment is too retarded to find a good system for us and he changes it every year, usually taking the worst parts of each european educational system and merging them togheter. It is hard to adapt to a new system, especially if it doesn't last long. Worst of all, they "test" the new things on us, while their sons and daughters are studying in Germany, UK or France.
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Re: The Educational System
by Kimonio » August 10th, 2013, 3:43 pm
When you are having to self-teach yourself stuff you want to learn because there are no classes until you get into higher educational institutions, it's a sign the schools have cut back on stuff.
Like seriously. I want Home Ec. I want to learn how to survive. Screw fast food.
Like seriously. I want Home Ec. I want to learn how to survive. Screw fast food.
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Re: The Educational System
by ~MP3 Amplifier~ » August 11th, 2013, 7:42 am
Thankfully I don't go to school. Michael Gove is changing them for the worse, I really hate him. They want to make exams harder by changing the grade boundaries etc, they started making GCSEs a year early too. Soon they won't even be called GCSEs.
I'm really happy that Mollie got out of this while she could. Honestly the UK's educational system is screwed up. It was fine the way it was- it's like they're changing it just for the sake of change.
I'm really happy that Mollie got out of this while she could. Honestly the UK's educational system is screwed up. It was fine the way it was- it's like they're changing it just for the sake of change.
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Re: The Educational System
by Karyete » August 11th, 2013, 8:45 am
To be honest I've never been taught PE properly in my life.
It wasn't even taught properly before I was here.
It wasn't even taught properly before I was here.
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Re: The Educational System
by Oranjui » August 11th, 2013, 9:11 am
Rules really need to be taken seriously. As far as I can tell, schools for miles around are a free for all. Dress codes are not well enforced, except for hats because they are "disrespectful." For the most part the staff is afraid that students hide drugs in them, which they probably do. I don't live in a remotely urban area so everyone knows what goes on. There are drug busts quite often, which really shouldn't be happening. I'm all for school uniforms. They'd reduce stress over what people wear, focusing students on classes (which they never have; general consensus is that it's cool to get bad grades and not really do anything in class), and hopefully cracking down on the drug problem.
Otherwise the scheduling system works great. We have a modified version if block scheduling, where there are 8 classes in a regular day, but on certain days of the week, classes are blocked into double-length periods. Thursdays the odd numbers are blocked (1, 3, 5, and 7) and then Fridays the evens are blocked. It works very well. Teachers are generally pretty good with how they handle everyone and help out and whatnot.
Sadly there really aren't many choices in terms of classes because they e decided to buy Chromebooks and iPads for all the students in my district which puts a hurting on the funding of, well, everything. Not their best move.
Otherwise the scheduling system works great. We have a modified version if block scheduling, where there are 8 classes in a regular day, but on certain days of the week, classes are blocked into double-length periods. Thursdays the odd numbers are blocked (1, 3, 5, and 7) and then Fridays the evens are blocked. It works very well. Teachers are generally pretty good with how they handle everyone and help out and whatnot.
Sadly there really aren't many choices in terms of classes because they e decided to buy Chromebooks and iPads for all the students in my district which puts a hurting on the funding of, well, everything. Not their best move.
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Re: The Educational System
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by Kimonio » August 11th, 2013, 2:11 pm
Im not a fan of school uniforms. If they ad a more casual form of outfit then yeah Id wear them. But khakis and collared shirts?....No. Just...no. Next after that is restrictions on jewelry and hair. I go to school with necklaces and longish hair but who can say I wont be made to cut it short? Not hving uniforms gives people the ability to show who they are and givea taste for uniqueness. Plus it wouldnt cut down on drugs at all...youd still have pockets to hide them in.
The problem is technology for students isnt helping. Kids can avoid work. They can get on Youtube and Paint. Hell, wed spend all day in school playing Minecraft and Halo on our laptops.
What schools are lacking is discipline. At my district we dont suspend. No. We have a paddle. And before you even call out its physical abuse, its not. If a parent wont discipline a student then the staff will. Parents are too lenient, and let the kids grow up to be brats. And its not the teachers faults or the students faults.
Its the parents.
This isnt to say its not the students fault as well. But who lets kids do drugs? The parwnts. Thw school cant do a thing for that. If I caught my kids disrespecting me or doing drugs, not only would they be disciplined, they would be stripped of their rights to nothing but the right to school and home. No friends or technology.
Kids are too spoiled. These days they want everything handed to them and see schoolwork as unnecessary. Its the kids fault. And its the parents fault for being a bad parental influence and not disciplining like they should. Its the governments fault for not giving us classes that are good and giving us the ♥♥♥♥ no worth a damn. And the worst part is society doeant give a ♥♥♥♥.
Thats why the American educational system screwed. Kids arw spoiled, the governent wants money, and parents dont do their jobs. At least mine raised me to care. But I knw people who dont.
The problem is technology for students isnt helping. Kids can avoid work. They can get on Youtube and Paint. Hell, wed spend all day in school playing Minecraft and Halo on our laptops.
What schools are lacking is discipline. At my district we dont suspend. No. We have a paddle. And before you even call out its physical abuse, its not. If a parent wont discipline a student then the staff will. Parents are too lenient, and let the kids grow up to be brats. And its not the teachers faults or the students faults.
Its the parents.
This isnt to say its not the students fault as well. But who lets kids do drugs? The parwnts. Thw school cant do a thing for that. If I caught my kids disrespecting me or doing drugs, not only would they be disciplined, they would be stripped of their rights to nothing but the right to school and home. No friends or technology.
Kids are too spoiled. These days they want everything handed to them and see schoolwork as unnecessary. Its the kids fault. And its the parents fault for being a bad parental influence and not disciplining like they should. Its the governments fault for not giving us classes that are good and giving us the ♥♥♥♥ no worth a damn. And the worst part is society doeant give a ♥♥♥♥.
Thats why the American educational system screwed. Kids arw spoiled, the governent wants money, and parents dont do their jobs. At least mine raised me to care. But I knw people who dont.
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