i have five classes a day in different rooms
that's about it
we also wear a uniform but it's a bit lenient if you're interested in that
The Educational System
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Re: The Educational System
by blue » August 11th, 2013, 8:06 pm
I have a question. How is the morning commute to the education building you go? Dumb that theres bad parking and no bus stop that you are always late?
Good since you are used to it? (you can still talk about the above questions)
And reading above, its really different there.
Good since you are used to it? (you can still talk about the above questions)
And reading above, its really different there.
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Re: The Educational System
by Kimonio » August 11th, 2013, 8:31 pm
We drive 10 miles to get to the school because we live on the highway and there is no parking. You hve to go around the bus drive tothe parking a ways away. I donttake a bus tbankfully though. No hydraulics to cut down on bumps, and I get carsick on bumpy roads.
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Re: The Educational System
by *Emelia K. Fletcher » August 12th, 2013, 1:34 am
Five classes a day, interspersed with a break between Periods 2/3 and lunch between 4/5. The students and teachers both move classes so it's always difficult to know what teacher is where. Confusion is often abound because the school thinks telling students "it's on your timetable" is enough to avoid any problems.
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Re: The Educational System
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by Venexis » August 14th, 2013, 9:54 pm
Elementary school is perfect. Kids are allowed to be kids, use their imagination and think outside the box to solve problems while still learning the material through classes and homework. I have zero issues with grades 1-6, as it felt like the only times anyone took out education seriously. Teachers would make a point of working with students who didn't "get it", devising new strategies for approaching the course materials. This is exactly how it should be.
Highschool (grades 7-12, I know some of you have middle school but ♥♥♥♥, this is my rant) was hell. My school did kindergarten to grade 12, but the grade 6 to 7 jump was one of the most shocking changes. Whereas we had daily homework in elementary (math, reading, sometimes science and history) this dropped to literally none. Homework suddenly became the stuff you didn't finish in class, which, when coupled with very generous and totally unrealistic deadlines, usually meant it was not an issue at all unless you intentionally faked working on the assignment. Two weeks for a two page essay, double spaced? Really? And extra time if you're a lazy ♥♥♥♥ who can't set aside an hour or two and get it done? Elementary used a plethora of different teaching techniques, but highschool was essentially copying notes and nothing else. If that's not your style, better make it your style, because this is highschool and you're expected to compress your essence into a tiny grey cube, exactly like everyone else.
And then there was the quality of the assignments. Writing assignments were restrictive at best. On the rare occasion we were allowed to pick our own topics (or god forbid write a story, like we used to regularly in elementary), you were forced to follow rigid structures. Better kiss that creative problem solving elementary worked so hard to preserve away, because that's now dangerous thinking. My teachers in elementary recognized that I was bored out of my mind and worked to keep me ahead of the class- I loved it. Highschool did the opposite. They recognized it and actively tried to kill it. You were expected to talk like everyone else, think like everyone else, and be like everyone else; otherwise, something was wrong and needed to be fixed.
That is not how school should be, ever. Lax deadlines promote laziness, teachers accepting assignments way past the deadline (and giving full marks) teaches that it's fine to disrespect authority, and the overwhelming pressure to conform just squeezes the imagination out of the students who will be expected to cure cancer or preserve the ice caps. I can't forgive that.
And then university comes along, and it's like being hit in the face with a sledgehammer. All that ♥♥♥♥ you got away with in highschool, you get a zero. No exceptions. Ever. In that sense, it was better than my highschool experience- I at least had to actively do homework and study to avoid failing. Turns out it's pretty hard to undo six years of bad study habits in a semester, and to nobody's surprise I ended up failing a math class. Still dealing with the repercussions of that, so yeah, super fun stuff. I guess it's just as bad in that way, while zero tolerance is a necessity for dealing with thousands of students at such an advanced level of education, it ends up punishing those with legitimate excuses.
TL;DR: Elementary was awesome, highschool was a pathetic excuse, and university was an alarming wakeup call.
Highschool (grades 7-12, I know some of you have middle school but ♥♥♥♥, this is my rant) was hell. My school did kindergarten to grade 12, but the grade 6 to 7 jump was one of the most shocking changes. Whereas we had daily homework in elementary (math, reading, sometimes science and history) this dropped to literally none. Homework suddenly became the stuff you didn't finish in class, which, when coupled with very generous and totally unrealistic deadlines, usually meant it was not an issue at all unless you intentionally faked working on the assignment. Two weeks for a two page essay, double spaced? Really? And extra time if you're a lazy ♥♥♥♥ who can't set aside an hour or two and get it done? Elementary used a plethora of different teaching techniques, but highschool was essentially copying notes and nothing else. If that's not your style, better make it your style, because this is highschool and you're expected to compress your essence into a tiny grey cube, exactly like everyone else.
And then there was the quality of the assignments. Writing assignments were restrictive at best. On the rare occasion we were allowed to pick our own topics (or god forbid write a story, like we used to regularly in elementary), you were forced to follow rigid structures. Better kiss that creative problem solving elementary worked so hard to preserve away, because that's now dangerous thinking. My teachers in elementary recognized that I was bored out of my mind and worked to keep me ahead of the class- I loved it. Highschool did the opposite. They recognized it and actively tried to kill it. You were expected to talk like everyone else, think like everyone else, and be like everyone else; otherwise, something was wrong and needed to be fixed.
That is not how school should be, ever. Lax deadlines promote laziness, teachers accepting assignments way past the deadline (and giving full marks) teaches that it's fine to disrespect authority, and the overwhelming pressure to conform just squeezes the imagination out of the students who will be expected to cure cancer or preserve the ice caps. I can't forgive that.
And then university comes along, and it's like being hit in the face with a sledgehammer. All that ♥♥♥♥ you got away with in highschool, you get a zero. No exceptions. Ever. In that sense, it was better than my highschool experience- I at least had to actively do homework and study to avoid failing. Turns out it's pretty hard to undo six years of bad study habits in a semester, and to nobody's surprise I ended up failing a math class. Still dealing with the repercussions of that, so yeah, super fun stuff. I guess it's just as bad in that way, while zero tolerance is a necessity for dealing with thousands of students at such an advanced level of education, it ends up punishing those with legitimate excuses.
TL;DR: Elementary was awesome, highschool was a pathetic excuse, and university was an alarming wakeup call.
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Re: The Educational System
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by Blablob » August 15th, 2013, 3:23 am
My educational experience has pretty much been Venexis's, in reverse. In fact, I only got restrictive assignments like 2-page essays my Freshman year. Everything changed when I went into AP.
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Re: The Educational System
by darthbrowser » August 15th, 2013, 9:22 am
Blablob wrote:My educational experience has pretty much been Venexis's, in reverse. In fact, I only got restrictive assignments like 2-page essays my Freshman year. Everything changed when I went into AP.
Indeed. Not to mention in America, it is all but impossible to get into a high quality college without AP courses. Based on what I have taken, they are not as challenging as 'true' college courses but far more rigorous than the equivalent high school offerings. Regular high courses have very little academic merit.
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Re: The Educational System
by Venexis » August 15th, 2013, 9:31 am
My school did have an AP stand-in type system, actually. Wasn't actually a class, but in elementary I was two years ahead in math and science just to make it interesting to me, and then highschool and suddenly I'm not allowed because I don't enjoy people and would rather have my two good friends than a class full of superficial ones who don't care. Eventually I just stopped caring, not working on assignments and using Google to learn what I wanted to. Except for exams, because those were important.
And then the school let three people take an advanced calculus course, but refused me. I'm cool with that if they have a reason, like my schedule is too full, but the people they did let in were taking even more credits... wtf. The entire decision making process seemed to be arbitrary and random, needless to say I am glad it is over now.
And then the school let three people take an advanced calculus course, but refused me. I'm cool with that if they have a reason, like my schedule is too full, but the people they did let in were taking even more credits... wtf. The entire decision making process seemed to be arbitrary and random, needless to say I am glad it is over now.
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Re: The Educational System
by lordpat » August 15th, 2013, 3:59 pm
So, a lot of you seems not to be content with your Educational System. If you could change it, how would you do so?
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Re: The Educational System
by Venexis » August 15th, 2013, 6:07 pm
Don't try to kill the student's desire to learn with repetitive ♥♥♥♥
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