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20,000 Koreans dissappear from Gulag

Postby Raz » September 9th, 2013, 4:54 pm

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/as ... 57499.html


Redditor wrote:Are you ♥♥♥♥ kidding me?
After all that the world ♥♥♥♥ went through during World War II - the concentration camps, the gas chambers, the torture and extermination of "undesirables".
How can the world stand idly by while there is extremely good evidence that this could be happening again? The UN needs to investigate thoroughly and take appropriate action - be it humanitarian or military, depending on the outcome of the investigation.
Sickening.
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Re: 20,000 Koreans dissappear from Gulag

Postby darthbrowser » September 9th, 2013, 9:50 pm

It may appear as I am being the devil's advocate, but a military intervention which would alleviate this problem successfully (i.e., Overthrowing the regime) would almost certainly result in some sort of nuclear strike.

North Korea's arsenal is capable of reaching almost of all South Korea and some parts of Japan. If their Taepodong-2 missiles are operational, it puts much more of the world at risk. Furthermore, due to the success of North Korean social engineering, any direct assassination of the regime would result in a massive conventional war - an inevitable event in any military intervention.

North Korea currently has the world's largest standing army, as well as the world's largest submarine force. They are capable of calling up almost 75% of their population up for military service at any one time. North Korea also maintains a stockpile of chemical weapons, and they have been known to experiment with weaponizing biological systems. Furthermore, they have a special forces division numbering around 120,000 men, which is believed to be trained to Western standards. If true, this means North Korea also has the world's largest special operations force. (Source: http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=16791)

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Once again, the main point is that any attempt to remove the regime will result in a nuclear strike - they have nothing to lose.
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Re: 20,000 Koreans dissappear from Gulag

Postby Kimonio » September 10th, 2013, 4:36 pm

I say we just send the CIA over and assassinate Kim Jong Il II or whatever they call him....I like Kim Jong for short but meh. Killing off the ♥♥♥♥ government there will stop that in its tracks and hopefully allow them to think on how to restart the country.

Of course, there's the risk of Neo-Nazi-ism branches restarting history over in North Korea. so we're ♥♥♥♥ if that happens. WWIII with nukes...:\

Can I just say that the world's gone to ♥♥♥♥? Can I? Please? Let's just detonate all our nukes underground, cause a massive earthquake, make the world explode, please. It'll save us all a future of misery.
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Re: 20,000 Koreans dissappear from Gulag

Postby Raz » September 10th, 2013, 5:00 pm

What will killing Kim Jong do besides cause even more wars?
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Re: 20,000 Koreans dissappear from Gulag

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Postby darthbrowser » September 10th, 2013, 7:25 pm

Raz wrote:What will killing Kim Jong do besides cause even more wars?


My point exactly. The North Koreans have been taught for two generations to worship the family, so to assassinate them would be deicide in North Korea - and would undoubtedly spark a massive retaliation. In such an event, a good ending would be the loss of South Korea, however, North Korea also has the ability to invade and occupy all of Japan in addition to all of Korea - and there is always the possibility that China will take advantage of the situation to make some land grabs of its own. Furthermore, North Korea would most likely have little hesitancy to utilize its nuclear weapons. In essence, the third world war.
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Re: 20,000 Koreans dissappear from Gulag

Postby Ridder » September 15th, 2013, 7:33 pm

Stoneheart wrote:I say we just send the CIA over and assassinate Kim Jong Il II or whatever they call him....I like Kim Jong for short but meh. Killing off the ♥♥♥♥ government there will stop that in its tracks and hopefully allow them to think on how to restart the country.

Of course, there's the risk of Neo-Nazi-ism branches restarting history over in North Korea. so we're ♥♥♥♥ if that happens. WWIII with nukes...:\

Can I just say that the world's gone to ♥♥♥♥? Can I? Please? Let's just detonate all our nukes underground, cause a massive earthquake, make the world explode, please. It'll save us all a future of misery.



Cut off the hydras head. Three trillion more pop out tearing everything to pieces.
Or in this case, a power vacuum, and yeah, all that war stuff. Killing Kim Jong-Un as things are now won't change much of anything; public opinion of your leader is usually a better source to attack before going for the man himself. I think it'd be a lot much more sound to show the true believers of the regime just how ♥♥♥♥ their leader is up to the point where officers of said regime would want to assassinate/dethrone the leaders themselves. Going in guns blazing is just going to perpetuate war, but sitting aside while things boil over like this isn't going to help either.
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Re: 20,000 Koreans dissappear from Gulag

Postby Raz » October 17th, 2013, 2:14 pm

hello? is anyone gonna do anything?
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Postby MessengerOfDreams » October 17th, 2013, 2:37 pm

Well we should do what America does best: get our ♥♥♥♥ in there and ♥♥♥♥ everything up.
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Re: 20,000 Koreans dissappear from Gulag

Postby Raz » October 17th, 2013, 3:01 pm

it worked pretty well in world war 2, and it'll be easier considering who their glorious leader is
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Re: 20,000 Koreans dissappear from Gulag

Postby MessengerOfDreams » October 17th, 2013, 3:02 pm

A psychopath with nuclear weapons at his disposal that would kill way more than 20,000 people? Yeah, totally.
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