Government being shutdown?

[Harmless]

I'm detecting slight hints at unrest similar to that of wall street.

But it does seem like for good reason.

[Raz]

http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1 ... _building/

Well.

Can't say I blame the woman. If so many people go without pay someone's bound to get pissed. I hope she left a dent in the gates.
(this is assuming the reason for her doing this is for the shutdown)

[MessengerOfDreams]

Didn't take Fox long to start blaming the libtards. Ironically the libs are the ones who are for gun control.

[Harmless]

Erm, wait, are you saying the libs are good or bad?

In my eyes all of them suck ♥♥♥♥. Gotta start reforming the government system a bit, doesn't seem like Democracy anymore.

[MessengerOfDreams]

This post by MessengerOfDreams was thumbed up by: 2

Killswitch (October 4th, 2013, 3:15 pm) • Newgeneration (October 4th, 2013, 7:39 pm)

[Harmless]

Ah.

I do kinda agree with the equality part, but I'm pretty well against gun control personally. Then again someone oughta make a separate thread for that.

someone vote raz, stoneheart, or a runouw rep for president btw

[nin10mode]

It never was democracy. It's a democratic republic. We elect people to make the important decisions for us. A true democracy would be to gather everyone up and try to decide laws that way; obviously very flawed.

[MessengerOfDreams]

Excuse me.


Pardon me for my mental breakdown.




































No.

NO.

HOW DARE YOU ♥♥♥♥ COMPARE POOR PEOPLE GETTING HEALTH INSURANCE TO WOMEN'S RIGHTS

HOW DARE YOU COMPARE IT TO HOMOPHOBIA

AND HOW DARE

HOW

DARE

YOU

♥♥♥♥

COMPARE IT TO SLAVERY

POOR PEOPLE GETTING HEALTHCARE FOR SLIGHTLY MORE OUT OF RICH PEOPLE'S POCKETS IS NOT SLAVERY

IT IS CALLED REPUBLICANS NOT GETTING THEIR WAY

YOU PSYCHOPATHIC ONLINE POSTERMAKING JACKOFF

AND FOR THAT MATTER OBAMA IS NOT HITLER

HE IS NOT A FANTASTIC PRESIDENT

BELIEVE ♥♥♥♥ ME

I KNOW

BUT TO COMPARE HIM TO HITLER

CAUSE YOU SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT AND HE ISN'T GIVING IN

IS ♥♥♥♥ STUPID

HAVE YOU NO SENSE OF DECENCY

YOU STUPID ♥♥♥♥ EXTREMISTS RUIN EVERY SINGLE GOOD POINT YOUR PARTY COULD EVER HAVE

WITH STUPID

INHUMANE

UNWELL

HORRIBLE

♥♥♥♥ LIKE THIS

♥♥♥♥ YOU

♥♥♥♥

YOU

[Harmless]

...

So yeah, anyway.

It never was democracy. It's a democratic republic. We elect people to make the important decisions for us. A true democracy would be to gather everyone up and try to decide laws that way; obviously very flawed.

Ah. I was hinting more towards just the beginning of something more flawed than democracy, must've not made it obvious.

[darthbrowser]

In my continued pursuit of the unbiased, I must point out that the Affordable Care Act is rather ill-conceived for its intended purpose, and likely to fail.

Republican PACs are able to use their finances to exert far more power over the general populace, and have already begun a considerable campaign to ensure the plan fails by stripping its funding (it is funded a manner similar to social security as well as by specialized taxes) - "Sabotage Obamacare ads unleashed"

If their plan succeeds, the Affordable Care Act will be left burdened with elderly and disabled recipients - i.e., those who require care, while lacking the young, healthy, paying members needed to fund the former. This will cause the plan to collapse - a failure which, when the costs of pushing the law through and then enacted it are combined, will cost well into the billions.

For a plan that is more designed to pander to the political sympathies of those who want to help the poor then to actually help the poor, that price tag is quite outlandish.

Since the current shutdown is a result of fighting over the Affordable Care Act, you can add in the cost of the shutdown to the total price tag, driving it up even further.

In total, I'd estimate about 350-750 billion dollars will have been spent on the bill if it fails by a lack of opt ins, over the bill's entire life, from policy fighting to enactment.