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The USA is Declining

Postby JSlayerXero » January 17th, 2014, 8:29 am

http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/religion-of-ignorance/

To paraphrase one of the videos at the bottom, "The masses didn't think the holocaust would happen, but their ignorance led to it happening."

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Re: The USA is Declining

Postby Harmless » January 17th, 2014, 10:19 am

Just saying, it's your topic, so I'm pretty sure you're open to speak your voice. No worries man.

Anyway...

I do feel like we've definitely had a lot of knuckleheads in office, and Congress is just more corrupt than ever when I think about it. But this article is saying it in the wrong sense.

First off, this article, when it starts stating a bunch of "facts" about the congressmen people, I do feel it is more directed to ad-hominum instead of directly issuing WHY they are bad at their job. The primary reason they're bad at their job is not because they supposedly went bankrupt or couldn't get a goddamn credit card. It's because they just don't care. If they cared they would've started standing up more and not sit back in their wealthy paychecks every month.

But don't get me wrong, I'm not entirely denying the fact that they could've been criminals too. But my main point is that the article simply said it in the wrong sense. We can't blame someone being bad at their job for whatever past they've had, but for how their current job ethic is holding them. Right now I don't see the congressmen really doing much to save the constitution or help promote better laws.

So in all, I agree with the fact that the article is saying that Congress is ♥♥♥♥ as it has been ♥♥♥♥ for a while, but it says it in the wrong way.
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Re: The USA is Declining

Postby JSlayerXero » January 17th, 2014, 11:00 am

Since you think my voice actually matters somehow.

It said why they act like that and thus are "bad" at their job. They're acting like this because they know they can get away with it. We ignore it instead of demanding justice. They get arrogant in knowing that we're not going to do a dang thing about it. So whether we perceive it as them doing their job "badly" or not, they're doing it because they know we couldn't care less. That's why they can pass bad laws thinly disguised as being for the people. See Obamacare. If a person is and/or acts like a criminal, do you really expect them them to make laws that are just and selfless? They're not "bad" at what they perceive to be their job. They're quite good even. At least that's what I believe it's trying to say. Maybe you know this already and I'm just being an idiot again.
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Re: The USA is Declining

Postby darthbrowser » January 17th, 2014, 7:01 pm

Ironically, the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991 is usually listed as the ultimate culprit in any theory of American decline.

The Cold War performed two functions which were very useful to the United States:

    1. As the Cold War was mainly economic, the American government was consistently compelled to do everything in its power to maintain economic development, and as a result, was forced to act more pragmatically than it does today.
    2. The United State's privileged position in NATO gave it massive political and economic influence - near hegemony over the West. This was because the U.S. was both economically powerful to began with, coming out of the Second World War, and also because it was mostly out of Soviet military reach. This meant that the other NATO powers saw the U.S. as the best possible economic power, resulting in favorable trades for the U.S.
    3. The Cold War divided the world economically - Western powers did not trade with Soviet bloc nations or communist affiliates and vice versa, while the arms race created significant demand at the same time. As a result, the U.S. had no effective competition - the main powers of Europe were either focused on the Cold War (France and Britain) or directly handicapped by it (West Germany).

When the Soviet Union collapsed, NATO's dependence on the United States followed it. As a result, the mass economic success of the 1980s quickly faded, replaced by isolated success by individuals. The occasional wide success is now unsustainable - reflected by the dot-com bubble, and the recession in 2007.

Economic decline is often the first step in general decline, and the United States suffers nowhere near the economic stability it did during the Cold War.
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Re: The USA is Declining

Postby *Emelia K. Fletcher » January 18th, 2014, 1:34 am

So how about that plan for everyone to move to Canada, huh


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Re: The USA is Declining

Postby Megar » January 18th, 2014, 3:40 am

do i need to make another "meanwhile in britain" joke
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Re: The USA is Declining

Postby Harmless » January 18th, 2014, 9:26 am

JSlayerXero wrote:It said why they act like that and thus are "bad" at their job. They're acting like this because they know they can get away with it. We ignore it instead of demanding justice. They get arrogant in knowing that we're not going to do a dang thing about it. So whether we perceive it as them doing their job "badly" or not, they're doing it because they know we couldn't care less. That's why they can pass bad laws thinly disguised as being for the people. See Obamacare. If a person is and/or acts like a criminal, do you really expect them them to make laws that are just and selfless? They're not "bad" at what they perceive to be their job. They're quite good even. At least that's what I believe it's trying to say.

Oh, missed the part where it says they weren't even convicted.

It makes me wonder who the hell let them in in the first place, heh. But you do have a point on that, they do feel like they can get away with things, hmm.

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Re: The USA is Declining

Postby Doram » January 25th, 2014, 7:43 pm

*sigh*

Well, rich people have always treated laws as mere suggestions, and the United States is not unique in that at all. It is literally a matter of statistical probability. Our country has concentrated a lot of the world's riches, so it is obvious that it would have attracted the majority of the world's corruption. The problem goes much deeper than that, though, and it is a global one. It involves the sociopolitical ramifications of the accumulation of wealth, specifically the tendency to use wealth as a weapon for accumulating tyrannical power. It is a vicious cycle of wealth serving the perpetuation of wealth through wielding the power of influence that wealth brings. It is supported both by the attitudes of the rich as well as the attitudes of those that allow themselves to be influenced by the rich (a.k.a everyone else). Material things can be used for good or for ill, as any physical thing, but when you allow them to control your life, you have voluntarily abandoned something precious, and suffer accordingly.
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Re: The USA is Declining

Postby Kimonio » January 27th, 2014, 4:51 pm

Harmless wrote:goddamn credit card

Credit cards suck, just throwing that out there. Debit cards matter the most when banking, unless you intend to pay off your debt on time.
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Re: The USA is Declining

Postby Doram » January 29th, 2014, 12:15 pm

.....and read.
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