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What is it? I'm going to die someday anyway, so what's the point of using my life to please my selfish future boss? That couldn't possibly make ME feel better. People care about themselves. Everybody does. Even me. I don't like that, though. I'm a hypocrite. Say it.
If you say you care, how could you possibly mean it? I'm just somebody who couldn't possibly have any connection with personally. If I die, it couldn't possibly affect you enough to enlighten. You'll eventually shrug it off.

I'm not saying I'm going to kill myself; I dread that! I just wish there was a way to exclude myself from society and live in a corner. Oh, but somebody's just going to arrest me for not paying my ♥♥♥♥ bills. What choice do I have? I wish I had the guts to end my life, but I'm too scared to. It could end all my troubles, but you don't have to "worry." I'm already seeing a painful future for myself. It's going to be torture, torture, and torture.

I don't know what to do. I'm no longer seeming to find happiness, not even by playing games all day long. Or making that totally... uhm... "fun" level. It just makes me wonder if there's any point in life anymore. Music doesn't seem to catch on anymore either. I don't get it. Right now, all 6000 songs on my iPod feel bland, even though I loved each one before.

Tell me. Is there actually a point in life?

We make our own purposes. Sure, someone can influence what you want to do later, but ultimately, you live because you don't want to die without making some sort of impact that's meaningful to you. These purposes change every day, and there's countless amounts of them, but they are there.

Right now, I think you're contemplating life because you don't have a set goal that you absolutely want to achieve. When you start doing things just to do them in hopes that it will cheer you up, I think its time to find another goal to work towards.

Don't bog yourself down with what you used to be interested in before (whether it was as a child or yesterday), try and think about what you want to do now. I find that being spontaneous is a very cheerful way to live.

Life is there...for you to live. I'm not saying it's any sort of gift or privilege or anything, but it's there for you to have and experience. Even if there is no ultimate goal, you can still make the ride worth it through little things. Or big things. And unfortunately, some people have it better off than others. If the future really is so bleak for you that there's nothing that you think could make it have any value, then frankly I don't think anyone should force you to stick around (though I would personally discourage it; for one thing, as general advice, there are going to be quite a few more people who care about you than you think...and there's always the possibility of things getting better, much better, so don't make any rash decisions).

Everyone develops their own sense of purpose throughout life. That purpose can be extravagant, or it can be exactly nothing, or anywhere in between. I'm fairly sure that the situation you've described is normal, though it could be a sign of something bigger (I'm not making any diagnoses here, though). Life will have plenty of low points, and it's something that we all have to deal with. However, again, the choice to do whatever is entirely up to you. I, for one, would miss you if you...left, though you may not be able to prove it (nor do I necessarily expect you to trust it given how little interaction we've had...sorry).

I had a fairly extended period of feeling like what you described once. It sucked. I can't say for certain, but I think what did it for me was taking a break from the same old daily routine for a while (see Nin's post above). Tried new things (no not drugs). Over time I figured out that, for me, if I had to pick a single thing I loved most in life, it would be learning. And that's what the point in life is for me. As for you...I don't know. You'll have to figure that out for yourself. I don't really know what else to say. Perhaps the first step is to stay as positive as possible; even if it feels fake, things will more than likely brighten up.

Best wishes for you.

Came back from a super mega depressive state of mind to see this. Mental note to edit this post with a response tomorrow. Shutting off internet so dad doesn't get fired.

I know this topic isn't about suicide, but this RL quote also answers your question pretty well:

This entire amount of suicides is nothing but a idiocy, because every suicide is based on a false conclusion, which is: "Nothing pays off! Nothing has a sense anymore! I wipe myself away!" Because if this is right, that nothing has a sense anymore, where's the sense of the suicide?

So yeah. There is a sense of life. Every happy moment makes life reasonable, as well as the hard times that you can manage to get though. Life has ups and downs, the mixture makes it. If everything in life would be beautiful, just like in the Garden of Eden, this would start to get soooooooomewhat boring. The bad times enable us to be pleasured about the good times.

I know this is the typically blue-eyed Supershroom talking here again, but these are basically my beliefs. We can be pleasured of the small things of life and find things that make us happy. May this be love, music, a sport, any kind of success, there are many possibilities.

EDIT: Ooops, I didn't notice already that you're talking about having a hard time in life. I know that feeling. In school I was a victim of bullying due to being sharp as a tack and 2 years younger than everyone else (I was born this way, sorry), and though it has stopped step by step, I've still had a difficult time in school, but I've managed to get through somehow. I'm a fighter type, and I know you can be one too. You're one of the hardest workers here, you show that you're awesome even in times where you feel very down. We all know how important you are for us. And probably there are many other people in RL you're important for. You're unique just the way you are. Please keep it up and don't put your head into the sand.

Well hey, I'll quickly clean up the one line that resonated with me.

Trippy J wrote:If you say you care, how could you possibly mean it? I'm just somebody who couldn't possibly have any connection with personally. If I die, it couldn't possibly affect you enough to enlighten. You'll eventually shrug it off.

People on the internet are real people, with real lives, and real connections.
If I said I cared about someone I barely knew, it would be because yes I care about them, but I care about their health, I care about their families, I care about their direct connections. Because even if that person doesn't have a direct connection or affect on me, it still doesn't stop me from wanting to save their life if they told me they were going to kill themselves. If I knew that by saving their life I could give them hope or happiness, I could give their families hope that they'll get better, then that is all I want. It's a completely selfless deed, because maybe you're right maybe it won't affect me even in the slightest but I still want to help them; but maybe when you hate society and humanity, you think, is there anyone out there who'd actually do this for purely selfless reasons? But let me ask you one thing, which few people are you judging the whole of humanity on?

The point of life though is what you make of it. There's no answer to that, like "right everyone, this is the reason you're alive". No, you have to make your own reason. We only live once, I don't believe in reincarnation. You have to do what you can with the time you have. It's like going to a theatre production. You might get to a dull point and think "oh whatever, this is going to end in 2 hours anyway, let's just go now". But if you go now, you'll never know how it progresses, how it ends, how it moves on from this point.

Life isn't just "go on to boost a company boss up and die". As said by ^ these guys, life is what you want it to be. Sure, we have a basic standard, but you can go on to do amazing things that could change people's lives. Not just the people now, the people in the future too. Who says you can't? Who can determine that? Only you can decide what you want to do.

If you're doing the same things in life, then it WILL get bland and you WILL get bored. But there are so many things you can do in this world, and don't be afraid to venture from the norm or your comfort zone.

You're the one to define the point in your life. There's no such thing as a general solution that applies to anyone. One thing that certainly connects anyone, is the fact that we're generally seeking happiness in one of it's various forms. Some can find it through family, others through passion for work, hobbies and alike. Others go for friends only and can be happy with that. These are most likely the most popular ones, I'm aware of. But there are so much individual things as well. While they're sometimes difficult to understand for other people, you can certainly feel how it's affecting them. You're the one to give reasoning to your life.

I can tell you that you can do anything. Just don't get to the point of regret. Our time is limited. And it's definitely not possible to determine the time that's left.
Live your life to the fullest every day, as if it'd be your last one. Easily said. But it's most likely the most true line you can find out there, regarding this topic.

You're by far not the first one to ask this question, though. I had this very discussion with another guy who's also on Runouw, apparently. I simply told him to find his passion and shoot for it. If he's feeling like he's missing something, he shall fill these gaps and he will certainly get better. After months of discussions... and even arguments about it. He's a firefighter, got a girlfriend, slowly sets his priorities and does only trully complain about his actual work. But he got better and if he continues that way, he can reach a state many can only look up to. (If that certain someone happens to read this lines. Don't blame me. But you're a good example and I do think this way about you.)


Another thing I can certainly tell you about. Suicide is no solution. Also great respect to anyone helping people with these problems.
And I do know your current suffering. There's this moment when anything simply turns upside down. Paying bills, working for (sometimes scary) bosses, doing all this grown up stuff and worrying about failing the game called life. I'm myself experiencing this and I'm overwhelmed on a nearly daily base. (It's getting a bit better after a year now, though). I do also suddenly notice physical problems I didn't ever think about back as a child. Problems which do make me worry about further suffering. If anything, I'm knowing about that fear of endless torture until anything ends. But I do also notice that the trick about this whole thing is to enjoy your life. It's something limited you're granted only once. Nobody should ever throw this away.


I did myself think that playing games, watching movies, listening to music would make me feel good forever. Yeah. There's a point you will hit the ground with this outlook. I can tell by now, that we can embrace things much more if we're taking a break. For example. Don't play anything for a few months, return to it and you will most likely love it a good bit more than you did back then. As for music. I'm myself having a list of ~3000 'favourite' songs, I collected within a pretty long period of time. Nowadays I do think of this as something nice to return to. But in order to get that old feel I'm missing, I do need new unknown music. (That's one of the reasons why I'm always looking for new good stuff.) We're often running straight into dead ends if we're trying to regain old feels. You can only go for new things and hope to get something similar or even better.

To answer your last question. I'm simply pointing to my very first sentence in this post. "You're the one to define the point in your life."
It really is that way. You cannot ever expect to get a fitting answer for something as individual as this. You're knowing yourself the best. If you don't, learn more about yourself and shoot for new things (I know they can get scary. But if you do this, you will find your very own point one day.) Of course you can get so much possible solutions told by other people. But I can tell that you ain't ever considering one as fitting for you.

*eats 2 cent*

~MIDI Minimizer~ wrote:But let me ask you one thing, which few people are you judging the whole of humanity on?

I don't know. It's almost always a default thought when I'm upset. Like nobody could possibly help me, because I'll never express myself precisely enough. Problems are so specific.
It sometimes feels like cartoons and such did this to me. Why the ♥♥♥♥ does the writer have to torture their characters? Why insult them? How is it funny when somebody loses a duel/battle?

I'm confused.


EDIT: Got ninja'd by two users.

I don't know what to say. It feels like I need to make a huge wall of text to satisfy everybody.
I'm the epitome of lazy. I might even have reached the pinnacle. I've been doing nothing but school and video games for nearly my entire life. "Trying new things" and "leaving my comfort zone" isn't always easy. Sometimes it feels impossible.
I am 21. This started sometime around age 4 or 5. I am obsessed. I am obsessed. I am obsessed. I want to change it, but I'm never willing. It always gives me comfort away from reality.
Because of life, it's going to be torn away from me.

I had a somewhat good day today at school, but now if I ignore this thread, who knows what others would think? Now I have to sacrifice time, apparently.

Looks like this post wasn't good enough. Is anybody going to laugh?

Lol it's up to you whether or not you write a wall of text, or whether or not you sacrifice time to reply here. I replied here because I felt like it and it seemed like an important topic to you. But we're not gonna judge you or laugh at you if you decide that vent was all you needed and you don't want to write anymore.