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Afterlife Theory

PostPosted: August 28th, 2015, 2:26 pm
by 1018peter
I have this theory about afterlife,it goes like this:

First,all possible lives are represented as organic compounds.
Every single creature,no matter how small,has one organic compound that acts as the brain's core.
Upon a creature's death,ALL of the organic compounds that makes up the creature will start to go through different parts of nature. If any of the compounds get the chance to be eaten by a creature,they might be a part of that creature's children,although they might not be lucky enough to be the brain.
During the compounds' cycle to their next life,they don't feel time as they aren't actually sentiment yet.
The compounds' cycle to their next life may take years,even centuries,due to chance.
Do note that you get to keep nothing from your past life once you become another creature's brain's core due to incompatibility.

What do you think?

Re: Afterlife Theory

PostPosted: August 29th, 2015, 2:24 am
by Bogdan
So you're saying that after death our bodies will start decomposing and thus become source food for fungi, parasites and other necrophages? No new news.
Also how can one part of your body become part of another creature? AFAIK it's merely just food for them.

Re: Afterlife Theory

PostPosted: August 29th, 2015, 3:16 am
by 1018peter
Using viviparous animals as an example:

The remains turn into energy (in this case,protein) for forming sperms and eggs. This matters to being the brain or not.

After that,the fertilized egg obtains energy from the mother's body and forms body parts and such.

Re: Afterlife Theory

PostPosted: August 29th, 2015, 4:13 am
by Karyete
Funnily enough I strongly believe in the idea of reincarnation. I'm not religious or anything, it's just what I believe.

Re: Afterlife Theory

PostPosted: August 29th, 2015, 7:24 am
by #4715
I think it would be interesting if we had a thread where we all discuss our theories of what happens after death. Just a way to get to know each other's world views better.

Re: Afterlife Theory

PostPosted: August 29th, 2015, 12:12 pm
by Bogdan
Bamsmarck wrote:I think it would be interesting if we had a thread where we all discuss our theories of what happens after death. Just a way to get to know each other's world views better.

Why not discuss it here?

1018peter wrote:Using viviparous animals as an example:

The remains turn into energy (in this case,protein) for forming sperms and eggs. This matters to being the brain or not.

After that,the fertilized egg obtains energy from the mother's body and forms body parts and such.

I cannot exactly form an idea of what you're saying. So in essence say if a wolf was supposed to eat my corpse, you're going so far into tracking how does the wolf digest my meat, where the proteins and whatever inside me goes into it's body, reaching it's reproductive cells and wondering if that particular protein (carried by the reproductive cell) form the wolf's offspring's brain or not? Because I'm pretty sure it's not how it's works.

But now that you mentioned this, yesterday I finished reading Speaker for the Dead and what you say sorta remembered me of the way the pequeninos and other species died. While I personally consider it's no big spoiler, whenether an animal from that planet died, they would turn into something else. Trees, grass and so on, it would start another cicle of life in another form. Probably kind of what you mean in the original post.

As for me, personally I'm not sure what will happen after I die. Right now I think I will just merely die in a physical way and my body will decompose, nothing on the spiritual level. I don't really believe in reincarnation as I never encountered deja-vu's nor 'remembered' or met anything from a former life, therefore no proof or reincarnation. But if that is possible and later in life to 'unlock' past experiences, that would be awesome. Can you imagine remembering how it was when you lived 100 years ago or so? Maybe you fought back in Word War I and you may remember the battlefront. Or lived in ancient China. Or hell you remember being a raven and how great it feels to fly. Skeptical, but would be cool. That is option one.
Option two: I become a ghost. Sorry folks, but I wouldn't wish for heaven. I cannot imagine doing much around besides, existing? If my spirit needs to exist, let me go where I want, I'd like to see places I wasn't able to visit during my life. See the humanity progress or decay. Explore every spot of the world from the deep ocean to the farthest black hole from us. Again unsure if this would happen, but would be cool, at least for me.
I'd get tired to be stuck in one place, be it heaven, hell, valhalla or xilbalba.

Re: Afterlife Theory

PostPosted: August 29th, 2015, 12:40 pm
by #4715
I'm not in any way religious, plus I can be pretty skeptical about everything ever, so I don't personally believe in an afterlife. Honestly, even if there is life after death, I wouldn't want to be a part of it, eventually I just want to be done. No matter how great something is, I have to get bored eventually. Though, if I did have to keep going on, I agree that being a ghost would be pretty great. Even if ghosts wouldn't be able to interact with anything, I could still observe, and not having a corporeal form would mean I could explore space, which is a pretty big bonus.

Re: Afterlife Theory

PostPosted: August 29th, 2015, 12:46 pm
by Oranjui
It's an interesting idea, but I still find the concept of assuming there to be some sort of "core" protein/cell, or more popularly "soul", at the root of a being's existence/consciousness to be a bit silly. As much as I want to believe in ghosts and whatever just because they're cool to think about (and despite whatever ♥♥♥♥ I might have spouted in 2010 or 11 or whatever...I dunno where the hell I came up with my ideas about the world back then, I blame it on the influence of my mom), I really just can't. I'm highly skeptical of pretty much all afterlife/reincarnation theories nowadays, but to be honest, yours here is probably the most interesting/plausible one I've found yet, so kudos to you for that. :p

But as for your decomposing body parts becoming part of a future organism? That's definitely possible, and pretty normal, I would think. I'm pretty sure all of the neurons would have decayed/stopped working before any memories can be transferred (???) or anything, so that wouldn't work, but other than that, yeah. The universe likes to recycle ♥♥♥♥.

As for other worldviews and beliefs, I guess I could say that I identify with nihilism, but I'm not going to dwell on it. I mean, even if life is inherently purposeless, there's still stuff to do and experiences to have. And then we die, and lose everything to the forces of nature. So I'd rather just make the most out of whatever I have and have fun than I would spend my time brooding about how there's no point to anything in the world. God(s)? Eh, I couldn't really care less. Maybe they're here influencing our lives somehow, maybe they aren't, and I guess if you really want to believe it, then trying to please them might do you well in the short-term. But they can't do anything to you after you die, whether they exist or not. I guess I just take comfort in the idea that there's nothing after death and that I won't have to deal with continuing my existence for no reason at all other than to just hang around and do nothing for eternity. Unless I get to stay here, in which case I'd love being a ghost and exploring the world/universe.

So basically, it's fun to think about stuff like this, but my belief is that there's nothing after death.

Re: Afterlife Theory

PostPosted: August 30th, 2015, 3:33 am
by Bogdan
The thing is that most afterlife places that are told by religions are modeled after ancient (or even pre-ancient) era society standards. That being told people probably cannot imagine heaven to be described more than could people see in those ages, in this case, merely just existing and the place being nothing more, but gardens and other "God's creations." Same goes to other, possibily more fun places such as Valhalla where OK you might enjoying getting drunk on beer and continiously wrestle with great warriors, that was something that many people from that age considered out-of-routine (or non-boring in other worlds), but eventually you'll get bored.
If we were to update those places to today's standards, occupations and hobbies, we may think that places like heaven can be rich in tech or even things bellow our conception.

But again no matter how cool can it be, being stuck in a single place for eternity will eventually get boring. If a non-physical form of us exists, be it an energy or a spirit, which is freed after death it, let it go around every corner, let it waste in the infinity of the universe, and if by any chance it reaches it's end, let it go to another universe.

All wishes of mine aside, I'm a free-thinker and personally I don't identify with any after-life terms, conditions & places that are being told by religions, so as I said I consider that when I die, it's done. I am no longer there or anywhere. I've heard several people that "beliving in some sort of afterlife gives you hope, that one day you will see your loved ones again". Sorry, but death at a certain point, is good. Not only on physical level, here your body is no longer forcing you to stay alive, but also on a mental one. Eventually you'll have the impression you've seen everything you could see, done everything could do and if not then tough, you can no longer do it anyway. Not sure if living an eternity with your "loved ones" is worth it anyway, for me it's more like you're stuck there. With them. Full stop.

Re: Afterlife Theory

PostPosted: August 30th, 2015, 9:59 pm
by Harmless
If I don't have any memory transferred to my new body then I could care less about the after life :P

Though then again, I feel like some part of peter's theory doesn't make sense; If our bodies are to be eventually eaten by a lower-grade organism (or something not human, otherwise that would be cannibalism), then how did the first human spawn? Surely that would mean there would have to be something larger than humans to pass down to them, and then something larger than them, and then something larger than them, etc. etc. At least that's how I understand the theory so far, feel free to correct me if I butchered something.