Refugee crysis in Europe

[Bogdan]

I recently saw a reportage about Merkel saying the refugee situation got out of control, so I'm here to discuss it.
Here is an english article if you're courious.

Now I think you are familiar with the refugee crysis in Europe, if not here is a short summary:
People from Syria (mostly, but I think other countries aswell) migrate to Europe and cross countries such as Turkey, Serbia, Slovenia to get into Germany or UK. They claim they are fleeing away from war and are in search for better lives. Problem is they are way too many too handle. Hungary for example closed their borders and said they don't want any refugee in the country.

Problem is no matter how true and heartbreaking their story seems, it's obvious not every individual from the flock is well intended and there are extremists that will infiltrate. And even extremists aside, there are miserable individuals who will do nothing but look forward to wellfare, stealing and assaulting citizens.
Here is an example article.

Now true, in some countries, like Hungary for example they aren't exactly wellcomed. In my country for instance, the authorities claimed we can handle around 1300 refugees (and then we were told we should recieve around 6000, but didn't hear about any of them coming yet) and people started protesting about it, saying we don't want them. From the other side, most of them are looking forwards to big countries like Germany, France or UK so they may not want to be here anyway.

The essence of the problem is that some people (including authorities) do not want to be categorised as islamophobe, xenophobic or cultulary insensitive and do not want to deal with any kind of backlash, so they close their eyes and ignore that in a herd of refugees, among people that may actually be well intended there are criminals. Some may say "you can't assume everyone is bad because some of their comrades are bad intended", but if we take into consideration their background, and most importanly, their number we cannot deny that out there can be a considerable number of so-called refugees that came here to fight with us.

My approach to a solution would be limiting the access to refugees to enter our countries. Besides the terrorist factor, there are several others that will keep them away from integration or will take a long time to do (language, education, finding a workplace for them, shelter, food, healthcare, etc) and we should focus on removing the actual cause of the problem. If ISIS is the main problem, we should look forward to anihilate it, most likely by armed conflict. The more we delay, the bigger they become.

[darthbrowser]

First of all, most of the refugees actually causing problems are not war refugees from Syria, they are economic migrants from North Africa.

Second, the problem is not the migrants themselves, but their demographic. Problems just as the New Years rapes in Germany were caused by the large amount of young, single men from a very conservative cultural background.

One solution is to drastically limit the amount of immigrants via quotas, and disperse them among the host country so they integrate instead of creating segregated communities.

The other is to do what countries like Canada do, which is only allow women, children, and families into the country. Canada has had no problems with migrant violence.

As for the the politics, Islam is being used as a political football, which is just making the migrants more religious and more conservative, thus reversing any integration progress. Of course, neither the left nor the right care about Islam as a religion - after all, these are people who don't know a man with a turban is probably a Sikh, not a Muslim. All they care about is fishing for votes among ignorant voters.

[Bogdan]

One solution is to drastically limit the amount of immigrants via quotas, and disperse them among the host country so they integrate instead of creating segregated communities.

The other is to do what countries like Canada do, which is only allow women, children, and families into the country. Canada has had no problems with migrant violence.

Here is a thing. First Canada is one ocean away from any of the continents the Refugees may come from (Asia, Africa or Europe) so we can imagine that not a lot of them do actually get there, but quite a few (or fewer if we compare it with the ones that come to Europe), plus if we also add the quotas there are even fewer that enter. This thing doesn't necessary happen in Europe, where there is no ocean to separate us (well we have the Mediteranean Sea, but they can take a longer route and eventually reach us) and simply go and cross the borders of each country they encounter in their way, only possible obstacles being the police/military forces of a certain country or closed borders such as in Hungary.

Yes, we can impose some quotes and dimm the ammount of imigrants that are coming here, but there are already too many inside and we need to take care of them so the situation doesn't get out of control. Not to mention some countries may be self-bashing and won't try to forbid anyone to enter the country (unless it's a clear trouble, such as obvious terorists).

Now the integrating part is a bit hard. First barrier would be the language. We do not have the guarantee they speak english at all, let alone serbian, romanian, polish or any other kind of languages. English, French or German has a chance, but other languages that aren't exactly popular can be excluded, so you'll need to find someone who can teach them from arabic to romanian (and I don't deny that there are people outthere who can, just thinking they aren't many).
After that, there are several other obstacles, such as shelter and finding a working place for them (because obviously nobody will let them parasyte a country). Might be a few problems with xenophobism and integration into community. In countries that have an ammount of multiculturalism, it may not be a problem, it more conservative countries or the ones that aren't a popular attraction for different ethnics it will be harder.