My complaints about you guys post that I hinted at in chat is that clearly none of you took the time to read or watch the videos in my post. I understand the article might be long, but the video isn't. I'm not going to discuss with people who completely ignore the other side of the discussion. The video addresses a few things you guys brought up indirectly.
But whatever.
You really are exaggerating her speeches. I'd say she's fairly consistent, but you make it sound like she flip flops every other speech. Yes, she did have a more liberal approach after Bernie got involved, and yes, she does change her policies depending on public views. But both are still fairly rare. Let me clarify before I continue: her lack of giving a concrete answer in that interview confuses me too. I don't know why she didn't just give a concrete answer. It's more understandable to not be publically for it in the 2000s, it simply wasn't nearly as acceptable back then, and many other democratic candidates thought the same. 2014 was a year before gay marriage was legalized, so she should've just been outright about it. But whatever, I'm not Hillary, I don't know. But what I do know,
is that she is NOT lying when she says she has some semblance of a record with gay marriage. The way I interpret it was: she did lie, but not in the way you say. (*
In regards to DOMA before anyone bothers to bring it up.) She seemed to really not be completely comfortable with but also at the same time was okay with the idea. She did lie about not supporting/not completely supporting it, but when you look at the time she said these quotes, it's from a time where not many democratic politicans publicly supported it and she wanted to be safe and not be the leader. As the article states, it would've been nice, but she has generally been one to have the policies of the majority. It took her a long time to support it completely at all, and she did support it late. But I believe 100% that this is a non-issue now, she supports it actively. She at least partially supported it, could've been a leader, but didn't. That was a shame. But regardless, she
has proven to have some semblance of a record helping the LGBT community, alas, not a strong nor very public one. She has always played it safe, to the point of it hurting her in the long run. Recently, just as much so.
Now: Her emails. Simply put, we don't know about them enough yet. There is not a single damning email that has been leaked yet that has shown anything that could really hurt her. The simple answer is: people (republicans) are getting mad at something non-specific. If people took the time to assess the emails, they'd actually be helping Clinton, considering there really is nothing of harm in the emails.
Unless you count discussing questions at a conference where she is the only one there. The reason I bring up that article is because it's one completely blown out of proportion, like every other email. A presidential candidate knowing the questions to a 1 on 1 interview with no other people but herself and the interviewer there? DESPICABLE! Now, let me be clear once again: I am not saying she was completely transparent about emails. I am saying that there was nothing damning in her emails. She lied about her servers, clearly, but I simply believe she was using servers to shield her emails from FOIA requests, which is not a jailable offense, but a punishable one, yes. Like every other Clinton "scandal," republicans used their many many years of attacking the Clintons to make the public believe it was actually a big deal.
And let me extend most of that explanation to her Wallstreet speeches. We were talking about this in chat a few days ago. Her speech transcripts publicly leaked about a week ago, (but let me clarify her wallstreet interviews have been on youtube for the greater amount of a year, just no one cared cause hey ♥♥♥♥ hillary right) and surprise surprise, nothing of harm was said. In fact, she said some stuff that was pretty supportive of her current bernie-like policies, before bernie was even big. I thought that was pretty neat.
Really? She didn't accomplish much during her time as secretary of state (I'd have to read more on her as senator to give any sort of opinion)? Honestly, where did you read this source?
1. 2. Found these pretty good ones off of google, but regardless of those articles, here's a few of her accomplishments as secretary of state: (not typed by me)
- Laid the groundwork for the Iran nuclear deal by orchestrating sanctions on Iran
- Helped negotiate with Myanmar's military leadership to promote both freer elections and stronger economic ties with the US
- Did the actual work of rebuilding ties with European and Asian allies frayed by Bush's unilateralism
- Made diplomatic ties more personal, holding town hall type events in foreign countries to respond directly to people's concerns about US policy in their country
- Pressed Arab leaders to provide an economic future for their populace (before the arab spring)
- Strengthened ties with China and promoting an agreement where more chinese students could study in America and Americans studying in China (while also laying the groundwork for the deal on Carbon emissions later).
- Negotiating TPP and TTIP
Can't forget to include her time as First Lady. I'd say she was one of the most influential first ladies ever, only being beaten by Eleanor Roosevelt and Edith Wilson.
Just to name a few of her first lady accomplishments, again, not typed by me: (i can only type so much)
- She was part of the innermost circle vetting appointments to the new administration and her choices filled at least eleven top-level positions and dozens more lower-level ones. After Eleanor Roosevelt, Clinton is regarded as the most openly empowered presidential wife in American history.
- In January 1993, President Clinton named First Lady Clinton to chair a Task Force on National Health Care Reform
- Along with Senators Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch, she was a force behind the passage of the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, a federal effort that provided state support for children whose parents could not provide them with health coverage, and conducted outreach efforts on behalf of enrolling children in the program once it became law.
- She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses and encouraged older women to seek a mammogram to detect breast cancer, with coverage provided by Medicare.
- She successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health.
- The First Lady worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War, which became known as the Gulf War syndrome.
- Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, Clinton helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice.
- In 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady.
- In 1999, she was instrumental in the passage of the Foster Care Independence Act, which doubled federal monies for teenagers aging out of foster care.
- As First Lady, Clinton hosted numerous White House conferences, including ones on Child Care (1997), on Early Childhood Development and Learning (1997)
- Clinton traveled to 79 countries during this time, breaking the mark for most-traveled First Lady held by Pat Nixon.
- A March 1995 five-nation trip to South Asia, on behest of the U.S. State Department and without her husband, sought to improve relations with India and Pakistan.
- In a September 1995 speech before the Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, Clinton argued very forcefully against practices that abused women around the world and in the People's Republic of China itself,
- She was one of the most prominent international figures during the late 1990s to speak out against the treatment of Afghan women by the Taliban.
- She helped create Vital Voices, an international initiative sponsored by the United States to promote the participation of women in the political processes of their countries. It and Clinton's own visits encouraged women to make themselves heard in the Northern Ireland peace process.
In regards to Uranium One.In regards to Clinton Cash, it's an hour long film written by one of the writers on Breitbart. Normally I'd try to watch it but it's already lost any credibility for me. You might as well just watch a movie on clinton written by The Onion. I don't know how you can use that as one of your points as to why she is non-trustworthy.
So uh, in conclusion, she's not that bad personally. I think where Clinton's main problem lies is in her personality. And you know, as weird as it sounds, I can relate a lot to her. Maybe it's why it's easier for me to support her than others. I think we're very similar. Simply put, she's not good at campaigning. She's said it herself, when she's campaigning, everyone hates her, but when she's actually doing the work, her approval ratings are high. She's not very enthusiastic, and she's much better at one v one interactions. I don't need to go more indepth into this, cause if you actually take the time to read my last post and watch the videos/videos in the articles (!!!!!!!) then you'll understand what I mean. When she goes against someone with the energy of Bernie or the assertiveness of Trump, she gets outshined. But she shines in the actual work, and that's what's important. I think overall, the Clintons have just had so much trash thrown at them by the Republican side for the past 15 years that it all surfaced now and created this huge distrust for her and the rest of her family. We discussed this a little bit in the chat too, but there are some theories a lot of people have about her as well. One notable one I found interesting was how people associate her voice with a teacher or grandma or mom or something yelling at you, and subconsciously hate her a little more because of it. I dunno. At her core, she has "conspiracies" just about as bad as any other politician, and nothing really noteworthy. Anything notable is either blown up by republicans, or so full of misinformation and lack of info that we have no idea what is going on at this point.All I really have to say is open up to Clinton, (get used to her as well, considering how trump is practically killing himself) do your own research, stop relying on movies, sites like breitbart, and the like. There's even more I have to say, but I can't really remember it all because it's a lot. Just please vote Hillary. If I don't convince you that she's not so bad, I hope to at least convince you to vote for her. Trump IS that bad. It's not arguable anymore.
Posted: October 13th, 2016, 8:42 am