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Shad on Discord wrote:I'll try to elaborate on my position and explain as best possible why I believe what I do.

I understand the movement and support it, radicals aside. I agree there are blacks and minorities being shot by police, and that our justification of the deaths as "they were thugs" based on their denomination is wrong and presumptive, and I am all for stopping that ♥♥♥♥ from happening in the future.

I don't support the group or the organization, however. The reason being is its background in favoring radical nationalists, which I've brought up before and elaborated as best I could, and the scapegoating of 4-5 innocent deaths as justification for saying all 150+ black deaths of 1000+ casualties in the hands of law enforcement were unjustified, murderous, and that all were singled out based on the concept of racism or perpetual stereotyping.
I also can't favor the organization that turns its back on its protestors as they actively call for death and total absolute anarchy, which is not a vocal minority thing at all, nor is it just "venting". At least 9/10 when I engage someone who challenges my arguments against the group, they cannot explain how the shootings of black men and women in situations where they lunge or fire at officers is wrong, or they refuse to acknowledge these deaths at all, as not being fitting to the message(despite their accounting for all deaths, and giving the number to the T.

I'm for saying black lives matter. But I don't say that Black Lives Matter matters. That doesn't mean I am against the idea that blacks matter as much as whites, nor does that make me racist. It means I simply refuse to associate with a group/organization founded on the pretense of a movement, that goes as far as to go full-blown Marxist and anarchist.
I don't know how much sense that makes, but I know there are a number of deaths you don't see mentioned, simply because they were either armed or guilty of crimes that happened mere seconds before being gunned down. Not people like Sterling, Rice, and Gray either, but people like Jai Williams and Germichael Kennedy.

Shad's math wrote:Black casualties broken down by detail

Guardian's police counter, and it says that of 596 deaths in 2016, 147 of those were black deaths.

Of those 147 black deaths, 109 were armed.

Of those 109 armed, 102 were armed black males.

Of those 102 armed black males, 100 died of a gunshot.

Of those 100:
1 was a young man who was suicidal
1 was shot running towards officers with a non-lethal BB gun
1 raised a pistol at officers in the street after being told to drop it
1 was buttnaked firing erratically in the streets
1 acted erratically with a knife

So when you cut out those five? You still have 95 armed black men slain by officers, with over 95% of that 95 having either:
-raised a firearm purposely at an officers
-shot at officers without warning-
-broke into homes and were shot in firefights
-were shot during a drug bust gone awry
-robbed gas stations or banks

White casualties broken down by detail

~Soon to be added~

Other casualties broken down by detail

~Soon to be added~

This does not mean that all the deaths are right, nor were they justified. This is merely to get an idea of the how, why, the circumstance, and the demographic of the victims, to better understand where the corruption lay.