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The Truth about Life

PostPosted: September 10th, 2016, 9:56 am
by thedragonwarrior
What you are about to see is a video made by Reitanna Seishin (who is a YouTuber) about the truth about life called "YOU ARE NOT SAFE". This video speaks perfectly about the dark truth of Life itself, and what is really going on in this so called "Life". I hope you enjoy.





The truth hurts, I know. Despite this, we all know there is some good in this world. Don't let this video make you kill yourself or anything like that.

Re: The Truth about Life

PostPosted: September 10th, 2016, 11:22 am
by Bogdan
I just saw a little bit of the video and I stopped. The essence in it, is not something new or at least something I am not awear of and frankly most of the "goals are meaningless" and "trust nobody, but yourself" already applies to me, but the video format and the way of how it put the problem and give the idea to the public simply annoyed me and I stopped watching further.

I'm sure you heard the term nihilism before. You aknoweledge that no matter what, you will still die and in the end you can't say you made your difference, nor that anything actually helped you with anything as it won't affect you behind your grave. If many people get the idea of "Then why live? Why don't end efortlessly and painlessly right now" then they most likely got it wrong.

Here is how I put the problem. Right now I have no reason to live. My goals will mean nothing, whatever I achieve or hoard will help me with nothing after I die and hell, even if I die now, sooner, later or never, the universe and every single element in it will still adapt to exist and continue without me, I'm not even a minor setback and I weight absolutely nothing. I'm meaningless on an enourmeus scale.

But what reason do I have to die? Also none. I exist, I live and I continue to live because there is nothing that came around to stop me. So if I will just continue with my life till death comes, then I can fill this time gap with something. Personal values, hobbies, passions, activities, goals. They are all concepts that float around me and I just simply want them. While the end will just be sudden and nothing will carry over (we might get into afterlife theories if we dig deep enough), the meantime between birth and death, called life doesn't necessary mean it has to be empty, dull and meaningless. We can look at life like road. It's just grey asphalt we all cross over, at various speeds to the same destination, but that doesn't mean, we can't stop and add some beuauty to the side of the road. Maybe a corn field? Maybe some trees?

Maybe I didn't exactly follow the intention of the video, but I just cringed too much to watch it further.

Re: The Truth about Life

PostPosted: September 10th, 2016, 6:18 pm
by thedragonwarrior
But what reason do I have to die? Also none. I exist, I live and I continue to live because there is nothing that came around to stop me. So if I will just continue with my life till death comes, then I can fill this time gap with something. Personal values, hobbies, passions, activities, goals. They are all concepts that float around me and I just simply want them. While the end will just be sudden and nothing will carry over (we might get into afterlife theories if we dig deep enough), the meantime between birth and death, called life doesn't necessary mean it has to be empty, dull and meaningless. We can look at life like road. It's just grey asphalt we all cross over, at various speeds to the same destination, but that doesn't mean, we can't stop and add some beuauty to the side of the road. Maybe a corn field? Maybe some trees?


Yup. Not only is there some good left in the world, we could make it more beautiful than it already is. Despite the sad truth, whether or not it's true.

Re: The Truth about Life

PostPosted: September 10th, 2016, 10:05 pm
by ~Yuri
Ugh, this video was terrible. Seriously. The way it addresses life as a big conspiracy, where there's no success is just attrocious. I could just nitpickly argue against every single thing this video has to say, but I'll just give a general analysis.

First off, the world isn't some kind of big conspiracy in favor of privileged. Sure, it may seem like it sometimes when we are passing through bad situations, but remember: Nothing in life is forever. In fact, life itself is not forever, so why not enjoy it to the fullest without having to worry about such arbitrary stuff? Do you think the so said "disprivileged" people don't have moments of happiness and bliss? In fact, do you think most of them care about the "privileged" people who are "successful"?

Of course, there are people who live in a war situation, people who pass through hunger, people living in a dictatorship are in trouble. But they have one thing that can make the difference: Hope. Hope of one day, getting out of said situation, hopes of life becoming better. Hope alone is nothing though: Hope eventually becomes a dream, and leads to action. Doing what you can do to get out of trouble. That applies to any kind of situation. Surely sometimes it looks like a dead end, but never lose hope. And never stop looking at the little moments of joy you can find amidst what seems to be a sea of troubles. These are what make life worth it.

"You are not safe". Of course you are not. Troubles happen to anyone living in flesh and awareness. Diseases, losses, failures. They are part of life. Because by passing through all this you'll get to know how to fight the same trouble later. For diseases, in case you don't know, your organism's defense system will not take the same kind of virus and bacteria twice, because it'll know how to deal with them later. The same applies for losses and failures. It's by failing that you will know how to win. Sometimes it's by losing something/someone that you'll learn how much importance that beared to you.

Now "Life has no reason and no meaning". Sure as hell, that's right. But does it matter? Life is just there, and you are living it. It's a fact. Actually, it's the only fact you know for sure. What happens after you die, if everything around you is a big conspiracy, and all this stuff should come in second place. All I know is that I had a delicious omelet the other day, and I'm looking forward to the next day I'll have another one. Oh, and I did that one drawing that I really liked; I want to share it with people so I can know what I should improve upon and become better. Because I want more people to appreciate what I do. And by the time I accomplish that I will probably have found something else to try and accomplish. That's my life, and I can say it's good.

There's the saying that "Ignorance is bliss". So if the truth is that everything is a conspiracy, and that "you are not safe", then I prefer to be the most ignorant ♥♥♥♥ in the world, and just live on. because that makes me happy. If my goals are unrealistic or not, if I'm "disprivileged" or not, I don't ♥♥♥♥ care. I might as well die trying to accomplish my goals rather than just sitting down and complaining about the whole "conspiracy" around me.

Re: The Truth about Life

PostPosted: September 10th, 2016, 11:09 pm
by Harmless
Some of the things I think education systems (especially the one in the United States) miss out on is critical thinking, and thinking with your own brain and logical pathfindings. As a result, many of us simply accept information and one-sided arguments without any rebuttal or questioning the legitimacy of said argument. Dragonwarrior, I really hope you don't end up like one of these people - Simply dropping a video without any analysis of its content is disturbing to me.

I'm not saying you should feel ashamed of yourself, but be careful with what information your brain is influenced by others - It's good to think about a person's argument or a youtuber's video and ask yourself; "Is this a valid/convincing argument?". Because like the others have said, a lot of this video content is really just conspiracy. Of course, it should always be up to the recipient if you do (or don't) wish to be influenced by information arriving at your brain, but I find that people have a lot more success in life when they are able to critically think for themselves. (And no, critical thinking is not using a bunch of fancy words in a sentence. It's analysis, taking an argument and asking it questions, seeing if it really is valid, or if it has any loopholes or fallacies.)

Now personally, all I really have to say for now (because it's really late here) is that life goes on. Who cares if we die in the end? If we're gonna die, let's make some awesome things to remember us for when we do. Well, that's what I think anyway.

Re: The Truth about Life

PostPosted: September 11th, 2016, 1:56 am
by Bogdan
~Zero wrote:There's the saying that "Ignorance is bliss". So if the truth is that everything is a conspiracy, and that "you are not safe", then I prefer to be the most ignorant ♥♥♥♥ in the world, and just live on. because that makes me happy. If my goals are unrealistic or not, if I'm "disprivileged" or not, I don't ♥♥♥♥ care. I might as well die trying to accomplish my goals rather than just sitting down and complaining about the whole "conspiracy" around me.


Harmless wrote:Some of the things I think education systems (especially the one in the United States) miss out on is critical thinking, and thinking with your own brain and logical pathfindings. As a result, many of us simply accept information and one-sided arguments without any rebuttal or questioning the legitimacy of said argument.


Now that both of you guys have mentioned it I have a real-life example to this. I have a friend, who if you just mention something even slightly controversial (to him at least) will start and speak for hours about masons, "The Secret Library of Vatican" and a bunch of all this ♥♥♥♥, claiming he is one of the few who only ask this questions and are aware that "the world is rigged".

Me and my other friends have agreed to not argue with him, but quietly agree that all this is ♥♥♥♥. First off, as Harmless mentioned, we need to work on critical thinking. Most conspirationists will claim that they think for themselves and know more than the average sheep, but ironically it's exactly the opposite. I saw a lot of people spreading the same ideas. Not even changed, exactly the same, all hate about masons, templars, secret satanist and Vatican mafia I heard the exact same thing from various people, which lead me to believe that actually, none of those people actually thought for themselves. There was one guy who started the idea/concept and spread it, and those people just caught it for whatever reason, maybe because it sounded powerful, maybe because they thought they might be above average if they believe in, could be because of any reason at all. My point is, they didn't take the "normal" life, or the status quo if you wish as granted because they thought it's suspicious and claimed that they need to think for themselves, but instead took the exact opposite side of the bridge as granted, which makes no difference at all thinking-wise.

Through my life I've been exposed to various mentalities, concepts, doctrines and so on. I believed and some and opposed others (in case they opposed my initial beliefs if they were strongly rooted into my brain), but as years passed and I matured, I started to do a revision of what I heard of and believed till that moment and noticed that a lot of those doctrines or beliefs didn't actually characterise me, didn't apply to me or didn't touch me at all. I just believed some because I took them as granted. It's like someone gave me a book and instead of reading it to determine whenether I like it or not, I just put it on the shelf and tell everyone who passes by how great the book is, only because it looks good. I'm not a master of analogies, but I hope you got the idea. In essence, I was trying to point the "juding the book by the cover" thing and how easily we can make assumptions of concepts based on how greatly they are presented to us.

I said something about maturing earlier. I'm not going to ask for your age, nor mention any age as some people mature earlier or later than others, but regardless, if you haven't started already (and I'm not implying you didn't), you will at some point. You will begin to ask yourself questions and find suitable answers for yourself, you are building your character, just be careful what is shaping that character. One critical element is education and as Harmless said, some people are never taught to ask questions, in this case you have additional work to do in this journey and that is teaching yourself to ask questions.