26th SM63 Level Designer Contest

[Karyete]

Quite good, thanks for asking :p

Not trusting the judges is kind of unfair since if you look at previous LDCs you'll notice how judges didn't always get good rankings by putting their opponents' score down.

[Dtroid]

Okay so my opinion doesn't matter here and it's going to be argued over anyway so you guys can do whatever you like

It's not that I don't trust them,it's just...okay never mind. I respect your argument.

[Karyete]

Nonono. By all means have your opinion. I understand why someone would object against a judge entering a competition. I'm just saying why they wouldn't cheat here. But we're not shouting over your opinion.

[MessengerOfDreams]

I don't necessarily think it's true, I think that if you're really worried that we'll get an accidental case like Chau (where he's naturally a harsh judge but then he's also entering so he wins) you might want to consider that alternative.

*for the record I think Chau deserved to win that LDC

[Karyete]

The only problem with being a judge who's entering is that you can't really get a big score and/or win without someone probably thinking you cheated, and no, I'm not saying that's what anybody does or has done here.

[MessengerOfDreams]

Of course, I'm hardly saying it's on purpose. I'm just saying that when judges judge the different judging styles (I'm way too nice, Chau is very harsh) and also have an entrant, they spare themselves the judging style. Thus, Chau avoids taking a hard blow when his average score given out is like 15, and I end up handicapping myself when I gave levels 18s and 19s.

[Karyete]

Of course. I definitely think that every judge-participant who has won a medal has won it fair and square, and like what was said earlier, judges are judges because they're trustworthy, which is why they're allowed to participate too. Therefore I agree with you.

[Raz]

idk what shenanigans you guys are going on about but I agree chau did deserve to win something

[Harmless]

The only problem with being a judge who's entering is that you can't really get a big score and/or win without someone probably thinking you cheated, and no, I'm not saying that's what anybody does or has done here.

I think there's a way to fix this by looking at the feedback that they give (not necessarily the scores, but what they actually thought about the level) and balancing/asking about the feedback's legitimacy can be done.

[~MP3 Amplifier~]

Err....when did I ever say Chau didn't deserve to win? I just meant that the 6th LDC had highly downrated levels, like, the third placer getting a 9/20 etc from him. That doesn't mean his level sucked, just that it was a little bit unfair on the other entrants at the time. But that was an extreme case, I haven't seen anything happen like that since.

Also Dtroid I am sorry for arguing back like that, as your opinion does count. I dunno, I guess we are both kinda strong-willed, if there's an argument that is discussing something I feel very strongly about, I will fight for my side :3 (I guess that means anything to do with the rules, or level designing. Ironically I prefer breaking rules than sticking to them but ah well.)