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Supershroom wrote:Apart from that this was only set up because of me, this is real ♥♥♥♥.

For ♥♥♥♥ sake, Super, are you hearing yourself? You're getting so worked up over a bloody Level Designing Contest, because you can't just man up and take the scoring for what it is. The rules apply to ♥♥♥♥ everyone, so quit the "pity me" act. I'm getting real sick of it, and I'm sure everyone else is.

And I apologise for the anger, but seriously, this just needs to stop.

~MP3 Amplifier~ wrote:I know you're mad Harmless, but I think the best thing in situations like these is just to ignore it. We all know that LDCs aren't really LDCs if they don't come with their drama and their arguments here and there. And also still try not to double post just cuz there's a 10 minute gap between those two posts.

Sorry for the double post.

But if something like this is going to be directed towards me;

Supershroom wrote:Wow. Harmless' review for mine is even longer than in the 27th LDC. All I can tell is that the area with the red tiles / bowser tiles was playtested very deeply. Timing really shouldn't be a problem, and you can try infinitely many times instead of dying.

I guess all I should do is accept this and maybe really try to do something very simple next time, even if it's against my style. Maybe something in the way of Yuri's Snow Forest (aka creating my own one, lawl). But please, future judges, learn this, I really care about testing my levels. Try searching the causes rather on your side than on mine at first if you're frustrated with something.

I think I would answer.

-BY wrote:Wether it calms down until the next LDC or not, doesn't play much of a role. Especially as we've got enough judges around, who will keep continuing this ♥♥♥♥.

As if Supershroom wasn't the initiator with his overly-aggravating ego, yes.

Supershroom wrote:Warnings are only justified once somebody becomes personally hurtful by namecalling or excessive language or such, or flames otherwisely. According to that, I'm totally clean.

Speaking of which, Harmless' last three posts have truly been offensive for me.

Are you really trying to say that me asking you to stop your offensive ♥♥♥♥ to MoD and myself is now offending you?

When there's a repeated issue, that we've tirelessly tried to resolve over and over and it gets to the point where all it seems like people are doing are adding unnecessary fuel to the fire, then I think in those circumstances, ignoring it and moving on is the best way to stop it from continuing. By all means solve it and talk about it if it's something we need to fix, but really all that's happened here is someone's level placed a lot lower than they wanted it to, and this happens nearly every LDC.

The way around it is to just read the judgings and apply their suggestions for improvements to the next LDC, constructive criticism as painful as it can feel sometimes is an amazing thing really. It means that person actually wants you to improve, and is telling you directly how to. I would listen to it, as I have done every LDC I've been in.

Wait, am I hearing you right? When someone repeatedly attacks our character the best action is to take it as no mod intervention happens?

Okay, apparently I was a ♥♥♥♥♥ before and now I have to be an entirely different definition of ♥♥♥♥♥ now.

~MP3 Amplifier~ wrote:When there's a repeated issue, that we've tirelessly tried to resolve over and over and it gets to the point where all it seems like people are doing are adding unnecessary fuel to the fire, then I think in those circumstances, ignoring it and moving on is the best way to stop it from continuing. By all means solve it and talk about it if it's something we need to fix, but really all that's happened here is someone's level placed a lot lower than they wanted it to, and this happens nearly every LDC.

I dunno, I'd still rather address the issue, it'd be kinda rude to just ignore being publicly addressed. Especially if I was a judge.

The way around it is to just read the judgings and apply their suggestions for improvements to the next LDC, constructive criticism as painful as it can feel sometimes is an amazing thing really. It means that person actually wants you to improve, and is telling you directly how to. I would listen to it, as I have done every LDC I've been in.

Agreed, mostly because I really hope Supershroom reads this and understands what we've been trying to tell him this entire time.

MessengerOfDreams wrote:Wait, am I hearing you right? When someone repeatedly attacks our character the best action is to take it as no mod intervention happens?

Okay, apparently I was a ♥♥♥♥♥ before and now I have to be an entirely different definition of ♥♥♥♥♥ now.

There is already an intervention taking place behind the scenes that we are already taking care of, and I'm already looking into possibilities for punishments truth be told. I'm just saying to stop it from progressing to the point where we may have to take action against more than the few people involved, stop the conflict here now, otherwise it may as well just go downhill.

If you guys want to talk about it in a civilised manner, be my guest. But having a flame war is not going to solve the problem.

Of course.

Supershroom wrote:Apart from that this was only set up because of me, this is real ♥♥♥♥. I mean, conflicts are allowed and must be allowed as long as they happen in an orderly manner. Warnings are only justified once somebody becomes personally hurtful by namecalling or excessive language or such, or flames otherwisely. According to that, I'm totally clean.

Speaking of which, Harmless' last three posts have truly been offensive for me.

Yes. Now take a look. Do you think all these posts are in an "orderly manner" for you?

The conflict started because of you, but both you and Harmless are wrong. Supershroom, should you really complain about others judges' opinions not being exactly like yours? Just because you took a great amount of effort in the level and thought it was really good, doesn't mean the judges can give you a low score on Fun because of loading time, or because you didn't have interesting platforming concepts. And even so, it's possible to see people who actually gave you a good score because they liked the level. But, to be perfectly honest, every judge had an actual reason to give you a certain score. Nobody just looked at your level and simply said "Oh it's a Supershroom level, rate it 0/20". And Harmless, there was also no reason to call Supershroom a bully. Even if he's apparently sticking to one opinion, it's not your job to say he's wrong and call him a bully for that.

I can't get enough to say to you it's a matter of opinions. You created the level, and you are proud of that single part with the red evil bricks that push you to the ground? That's good. But someone will always find something to complain about it. That's the job of the judges. They can look at your level through different perspectives, and that's better than keeping one only point of view as the ultimate truth.

No, I called him out because he was saying MoD was acting like his total ♥♥♥♥♥ self from 2012 when all he was doing was questioning Shroom's logic in his post.

Never ever said that. All I said was that MoD also already ranted against a judging of his level, which he had all rights to do so, no matter if he was right with this or not. Not stating an opinion towards this. Meh, that was a side note referring to the past.

Others may simply say such things and I may not.