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Postby Lederp » July 20th, 2012, 2:57 pm

I sincerely apologize for griefing Razputin on Oranjuice's server,and griefing that other Xerx server with Kirby859. I'm not asking that you forgive me, but I sincerely hope you will. I'm not asking to be unbanned from your server, Oranjuice. Hopefully you guys will forgive me and Kirby859, even though he isn't the one apologizing.

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Re: My formal apology

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Postby Oranjui » July 23rd, 2012, 7:11 pm

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You ♥♥♥♥ destroyed 80% of his house and let all of his animals loose, plus you blew up a creeper there. You were laughing about it before I banned you, and you said you were "setting the animals free." You admitted to griefing, and now you want to apologize? No. Sorry doesn't cut it. EVER. Tsu was only unbanned because I let it slide as an accident (he still has a warning for it though). But you, you just straight up went to his house and destroyed it. You even killed him, and I didn't check but from what you guys were saying in the chat, it sounded like you tried to loot some diamonds, which weren't even his, they were Ven's. Yeah, sure, hate me forever, I don't care. Don't grief and you won't get banned. But it's too late now. Of course, you stated a few times that you had no idea there were rules and a topic. I sort of explained some rules to you then, with signs. Yeah, we were communicating with signs. You asked if I knew where Tsu lived, I said out past a jungle and in the mountains somewhere. Then you asked if you guys could kill him, I said no, of course not. Then, you left out in search of him, despite what I said. I'm the server host, if I say no, that means no. Plus, both you and Kirby kept asking to wage war on Tsu. I said no, no, no, no, no. YOU KILLED HIM ANYWAY.

You think a simple "Oh, I'm sincerely sorry, please forgive me" will do it? No. You're not "sincerely sorry." You disregarded what the admin said multiple times, and you went and griefed him. No griefing is practically the number one rule for every server (besides anarchy servers, which mine isn't). Neither of you will be forgiven, much less unbanned.


And after THAT incident, why the hell did you go and grief Xerx's server? You said that griefing is fun in survival, which implies that you have past experience of griefing, which I wouldn't doubt. With your background of griefing, you think he's going to forgive you either? Well, I'm not Xerx, but he probably won't.

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edit1 [24 July 2012]: this was the result
edit2 [11 August 2014]: Removed hide tags, replaced with spoiler.


[11 August 2014] UPDATE:
Dear future readers: Beware, for this thread is far outdated, and it does not accurately represent who many of the involved parties are or how they behave. Recognize that I, and several others, have changed quite greatly since this thread occurred. I do still believe that tracie was in the wrong for his actions, but I forgive him, and that's not to say I wasn't absolutely in the wrong as well for how I handled this. I made several very unnecessary personal attacks and caused this to become much more than it should have been (I can't even identify the point I was trying to argue for now). I really want to thank CY and MoD below (the latter at least toward the beginning of the thread) for trying to help break up the dispute, and probably helping me realize some things as well. This post caused me a lot of embarrassment, which it should have, but I'm keeping it up for preservation purposes no matter how much I want to delete it.
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Re: My formal apology

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Postby ChaosYoshi » July 23rd, 2012, 8:14 pm

Geez, OJ, enough with the lecture. I do agree with you, as a lot of server admins would, that greefing is not tolerable (with some exceptions like a circle of creepers) and that those people should not be allowed back on. However, most of the mature admins I know of do not write out an entire rant on one player. In fact, it's sometimes considered responding to trolls. It's usually "[enter name here] has been banned for griefing." I'm posting this just for future reference, not exactly to bash on you.
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Re: My formal apology

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Postby MessengerOfDreams » July 23rd, 2012, 8:32 pm

Dear me up a ♥♥♥♥! You people are taking your Minecraft way too ♥♥♥♥ seriously. People, it's Minecraft!

So Lederp was a douchebag on your server. Ban him there. He apologizes, and then ORANJ unleashes all hell like a high n mighty southern baptist preacher. Jesus, did you really need to be such a superior about it? I got major douche chills from that post, like if I just found that post from nowhere I would think that happened in REAL LIFE and that the subject of your rage was James Joker Holmes. That just makes me sad for you and for humanity that the state of our world is so uptight and sensitive that being a ♥♥♥♥ on minecraft deserves such a ♥♥♥♥ lecture AFTER YOU BAN HIM. Jesus, just... Jesus! I don't care if he doesn't mean it... be the bigger man, not the bigger douche!

And above all, don't bring your ♥♥♥♥ here. Jesus, if this is the abusive counterculture Minecraft is breeding here, then I'm just kind of worried. And it explains a lot, too, why Minecraft and gaming ♥♥♥♥ really does cause major problems. I didn't even that kind of thunderous ♥♥♥♥ to XNR3 or those douchebag board members at TriMet, and I'll say they deserve it a lot more than Lederp does. I am just incredibly disappointed right now.

...just ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥. Wow. -20 respect points.
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Re: My formal apology

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Postby brandoprojectm » July 23rd, 2012, 8:44 pm

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Re: My formal apology

Postby Oranjui » July 24th, 2012, 7:31 am

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Minecraft is just a game. As is every other game. Oh no, people cry when people destroy their stuff on Minecraft. Oh no, people cry when their stuff is destroyed/deleted on SM63, and not only that, but a lot of other games. I honestly don't think Lederp is being sincere about this. He was literally laughing about it right after the incident.


Maybe it's not even about this. It's just.... Well, I'm not going to try and bring another pity party here, so I'm just stopping here.

See my above post, please.
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Postby Dr. Ocsid » July 24th, 2012, 7:59 am

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Postby Raz » July 24th, 2012, 8:48 am

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Karyete: We don't want to hear your opinion at this stage.
Karyete: You're not getting any apology, especially after now.
Karyete: You can stay up on your high horse, continue to twist the truth and act like an absolute child all you want. I refuse to give respect to a man who right now is picking up a dropped argument because he simply cannot fathom the idea that he might be in the wrong.
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Re: My formal apology

Postby MessengerOfDreams » July 24th, 2012, 9:39 am

Oranjuice wrote:Minecraft is just a game. As is every other game. Oh no, people cry when people destroy their stuff on Minecraft. Oh no, people cry when their stuff is destroyed/deleted on SM63, and not only that, but a lot of other games. I honestly don't think Lederp is being sincere about this. He was literally laughing about it right after the incident.


Maybe it's not even about this. It's just.... Well, I'm not going to try and bring another pity party here, so I'm just stopping here.


Okay, I don't care if people cry over their games to themselves. What I DO care about is when people use this site as a soapbox for a vicious, righteous godly ♥♥♥♥ fire rant against someone else for everyone to see. HUGE difference. You do not need to do what you just did to Lederp in public like that. Especially considering that you are in fact a staff member. You may think being a wikimod is small enough to not count, but the fact of the matter is that you have a colored name and therefore people will be looking up to you. You're embarrassing all of us with this behavior. It's unacceptable no matter who you are but it's definitely so if you're a staff member.
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Re: My formal apology

Postby Oranjui » July 24th, 2012, 10:05 am

Oranjuice wrote:Maybe it's not even about this. It's just.... Well, I'm not going to try and bring another pity party here, so I'm just stopping here.
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