Super Smash Bros. for WiiU/3DS

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Re: Super Smash Bros. for WiiU/3DS

Postby Forgotten » December 15th, 2015, 3:34 pm

I'm not a big fan of Final Fantasy VII, I like Cloud just as much as any other Final Fantasy character I like. But now I think Cloud's the better one. At least he's iconic and at least I've played the game. But I've never played Bayonetta, so I don't care much either, I think she's kinda out of place in Smash.

Whoever the hell Corrin is, I just wished someone more iconic was added instead. Because I've seen lots of those "Most Wanted DLC for Smash" videos on YouTube and literally nobody mentioned Corrin, not even in the comments. I was hoping for more third party veterans since Cloud was added, but that didn't happen...

The only thing that I actually found fascinating was the Geno costume.
Yeah, overall I find it pretty disappointing.
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Re: Super Smash Bros. for WiiU/3DS

Postby MessengerOfDreams » December 15th, 2015, 3:42 pm

I'm a little more okay with the ZSS and Bayonetta sexualization (okay, not REALLY with the ZSS, Bayonetta was created that way and ZSS was not really intended that way) knowing that they're giving some of the guys sexy costumes as well with shirtlessness and ♥♥♥♥. But it still does tie into a lot of video game sexism external to this, so I'm still kinda squicked by it.
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Re: Super Smash Bros. for WiiU/3DS

Postby Charcoal » December 15th, 2015, 3:48 pm

There's nothing wrong with being disappointed. I'll be honest, I felt some disappointment that Wolf wasn't coming back even with Star Fox Zero on the way. I wanted to see Dixie Kong added personally. I was disappointed myself, yes, but at least be happy that we have additional characters in the game.

I'm kinda sick of people complaining about there being another FE character or another swordsman. Look, Corrin seems to have a different moveset compared to the other FE characters. Bayonetta is also a unique addition, and it looks like she has SO many combos. What's wrong with them?
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Postby NanTheDark » December 15th, 2015, 4:00 pm

What has me disappointed is that... this is it. This is the last announcement. Bayonetta was cool, sure, but it... didn't rock my world. I guess I had too high expectations for this. I actually expected to see like, 4 new characters (besides Cloud) or something. :P

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Corrin: I HAD NO IDEA OF WHO THIS WAS BEFORE. xD But oh well. He seems quite unique. He seems to have a rather good range in a lot of moves. Also lol more characters with counters lol six Fire Emblem characters lololol

Cloud: He works pretty much as I expected him to. Good enough. Good alt costumes too. WHY AREN'T THERE MORE CHARACTERS WITH ALTS SAKURAI

Bayonetta: She's a pretty cool character and all, but she seems... very powerful. Like, way too powerful. Kinda like putting Dante in Smash. If Ryu was a combo master, this girl is a combo legend or something. She'll probably prove to not be as awesome later on, like Ryu, but right now she seems very OP. :P Also why do sexy characters bother people so much

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Re: Super Smash Bros. for WiiU/3DS

Postby Zunar » December 15th, 2015, 4:08 pm

I can't really complain about Bayonetta since I've never played any games so idk who the hell she even is

About Corrin, it'd be different if the FE characters were more unique, like how there's so many Mario characters but they're all different. All the FE characters are swordsmen (even Robin uses swords), so to me it just seems really cookie-cutter at this point to have another sword-wielding FE character. I'm not necessarily writing him off just yet (at least he's not Roy), I'm just saying there were way better choices.
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Re: Super Smash Bros. for WiiU/3DS

Postby Venexis » December 15th, 2015, 4:13 pm

Nothing's "wrong" with them. It's just that stuff like FE has had a huge (and some, myself included, would say disproportionate) number of characters, even at launch. Mario has a lot of guys because the franchise is over 30 years old, covering everything from traditional 2D platformers to RPGs to racing to educational games. Whether you care for the franchise or not, it spans an absolutely massive chunk of gaming history and gaming iconography, and therefore should probably feature more characters. FE on the other hand has done one thing (turn-based strategy) and was kinda slumping until the last few years put it back in the spotlight.

This is fine- Nintendo wants to push certain franchises, who are we to complain? But seeing as how they've wholeheartedly embraced the idea of DLC, completely ignored a number of high ranking character suggestions submitted to their very own poll, and have been trying to incorporate characters from non-Nintendo franchises, it's a bit of a slap to the face when yet another undeserving FE makes the cut.

Not gonna lie I'm pretty butthurt, but you probably would be too if only two characters from your favorite franchise got in, and then on top of that they were both Samus. After not seeing a new game since Other M in 2010. And it being a rather disappointing game. And then Nintendo has the audacity to label something like Federation Force under the same name as the Prime trilogy. Yeah.

There's a lot of better choices and frankly Nintendo's given us the right a lot of reasons to expect those better choices after the last three smashes.
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Re: Super Smash Bros. for WiiU/3DS

Postby NanTheDark » December 15th, 2015, 5:11 pm

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Postby Konradix » December 15th, 2015, 5:59 pm

I'm not really interested in either Bayonetta nor FE, so Cloud was pretty much the hypest for me.
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Re: Super Smash Bros. for WiiU/3DS

Postby ShadeRaider » December 15th, 2015, 6:17 pm

I personally really detest how they are adding like two-billion fire emblem characters with the same moves like Marth and Lucina. I mean Robin is pretty okay by my standards since he has unique moves unlike Lucina, when you have 4 normal fire emblem and 2 DLC fire emblem fighters that's a bit overkill dontcha think? Pac-man? seriously he's not even a Nintendo character
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Re: Super Smash Bros. for WiiU/3DS

Postby Konradix » December 15th, 2015, 6:51 pm

Namco helped develop the game closely, that's why Pac-man's in. And I don't see how that has anything to do with anything, neither Megaman nor Ryu were Nintendo characters :|
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