Super Mario 63 Level Editor vs. Super Mario Maker Discussion

[Karyete]

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Karyete (April 24th, 2016, 9:33 am) • Nuclear_Blaze (April 25th, 2016, 3:57 am)

[Supershroom]

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newsuperhackboys (May 23rd, 2016, 11:07 am)

[newsuperhackboys]

SM63 is generally better because Nintendo deletes every SMM level while we have a working portal system

Didn't Nintendo delete them because the levels were about glitches that were fixed or had inappropriate messages?

[Karyete]

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CedarBranch (April 24th, 2016, 3:36 pm) • newsuperhackboys (April 24th, 2016, 9:49 am)

[CedarBranch]

I wish I could vote for SMM, but I have so much more freedom with Super Mario 63. And Last Legacy.


Like, have I ever lost any of my Super Mario 63 levels? Even my oldest ones? Nope!

[Awesomeguy 99]

Even my worst levels on SM63 were not deleted (As long as they were approved)even if they were widely unliked and many tricks on the SM63 designer revolve around glitches, but we don't delete those and some that use them are some of the best levels on the site. Super Mario Maker is getting updates and new costumes quickly as of late, and there are many more users on Wii U than here. However, the only real moderation is through the regular users that play levels and give them stars, and if they don't receive stars they are deleted permanently and you have to COMPLETELY remake the course to attempt to upload it again. Most of the levels are not too good either especially when playing the 100 Mario Challenge, and others are just auto or music levels. Also, being banned from Miiverse keeps you from posting any levels (Which is a terrible idea in my opinion, why would you link Miiverse and a game COMPLETELY? And with Miiverse moderation, I was banned for 2 weeks, and then after 4 days banned AGAIN. I'm still banned currently.) As long as you have a Runouw account you're fine and as long as you aren't pestering anybody or breaking rules a bunch, you don't often get banned here or especially perma'd. I've also had a level where I had used only 10 total items deleted and it only had 3 PLAYS. Usually newer levels are seen in the 100 Mario Challenge but only 3 PEOPLE were able to see my level. And as only 3 people could have a chance of seeing it, most probably little kids that can't understand why they have to use the buttons on their controller and they aren't playing an auto level. Basically I think SM63 is better as it has larger amounts of potential but it doesn't get many updates (The last one was years ago) but it has better moderation as well.

[Konradix]

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Vajrin (April 25th, 2016, 12:34 am)

[Supershroom]

Hey Konradix, that's too patronizing and you also occasionally miss the point. Just let him explore the SM63 engine.

Super Mario 63:
Cons:
You can't make sub areas

He probably meant that you can't change backgrounds between transitions, which can be annoying sometimes. Also the standalone LD is currently blocked :>

Having the blue grid and not the course background in LDing mode is also good because if you have a dark background, you barely see the grid anymore. LL can tell you a thing about that.

Runouw won't update SM63 because he's focusing on LL. We gotta have understandings for that.

[Zunar]

Konradix does make a lot of good points I think, but his point about SM63's FPS is a bit moot now because there is at least one (unofficial) version of the game which stabilizes the framerate. I know of one used for speedruns that can be found on http://www.speedrun.com/sm63

Also a con that was not mentioned is that SMM is on the WiiU and those cost money. SM63 does not.

[newsuperhackboys]

UPDATE: I edited the post to make a bit more fair.