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The Truth Is...

PostPosted: March 9th, 2012, 7:35 pm
by MessengerOfDreams
You know, I think I finally realized something, and... maybe I've known it all along. But, even though there's a legitimate veneer of humor and ridicule to draw from everything that's going on at XNR3... I'm pissed. I'm not just pissed, I'm legitimately ♥♥♥♥ angry. I'm pissed that not only do they keep trying to attack us, but we keep opening ourselves up to it. I don't believe anything these guys say is properly informed, and personally I think that most of them, with rare exceptions, are a bunch of hateful, discriminative, deluded, stupid, prideful and possibly brainwashed ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. But you know what? They're laughing at us every time we strike back, the same way we laugh at what they say.

But I'm just now realizing that this is stupid, on our behalf as well. Why do we keep taking the bait, going over there, ranting them out again just to get the same response type thing? More importantly, why do we keep trolling them right back? I'm not going to blame anyone or say this is all anyone's fault- our continued involvement with XNR3 is a big mistake. It's giving them a level of victory over us because they like to make us angry. And that's our difference- we don't go around carrying the XNR3 mantra as the devil incarnate in every post, nor do we delude ourselves with the idea of us being gods above men- I love our group of misfits but I'm not declaring us the all time best, nor am I going to make sure any time I mention our site I throw in "Oh by the way, ♥♥♥♥ XNR3." We mention them as a joke sometimes, but we don't dedicate our lives to ruin Koopa Yoshi and his crew. By all intents, these guys should have been a one-liner flash in the pan in the Timeline's history.

But here's our problem- we keep taking this as just a giant joke, as something that won't affect us at all. In particular I convinced myself that this was all that it was. But I'm wrong. This is a serious problem. I don't mean it like "Koopa Yoshi is going to hack us all and rape us from the inside out." But just look at ourselves. Usuario is letting their belittling of our site anger him and ruin his day. Link's over there defending us and getting ostracized because of it. Even Amp is getting treated with disrespect despite being completely neutral and amicable with the entire group. And finally, for ♥♥♥♥'S SAKE, they were attacking my little sister over there because they have a member named Ani, and my sister has barely heard of Koopa Yoshi. I literally wanted to rip the web open and beat the ♥♥♥♥ out of those guys for even mentioning her, much less lying about her. I don't want to feel that kind of anger.

And there are still people going over there because they flamed me going to defend me, and the mods, and everyone else. But when I say I'm angry, it's not because they're attacking me... alright, maybe it is somewhat, but it's not important. I'm even more angry to see all of you being affected, attacked, insulted and involved with XNR3 and getting them back. Even Red remarked that this is causing a heavy damper on the site, and I'm inclined to agree with him. And at this point, it doesn't even need to matter.

What I want us to do is completely withdrawl. Leave their site be. Forget it, or at least push it to the back of our minds. Soon enough they'll forget we ever existed, or they'll be dining on their own ♥♥♥♥ so far that it won't matter.

Amp, Karyete, Link, anyone else active over there... I'm not going to make you do anything, because it's your decision and you're not troublemakers. But I'm asking you, please, just leave the site alone. As long as you're there, they're going to assume we're here, and they're going to continue to stigmatize you because you are from Runouw. And honestly, take no offense, but I can't see how you can sit there, listening to your friends and your site getting talked about so ♥♥♥♥ and do nothing about it. It just doesn't make sense to me. So, please, withdrawl. Don't even need to make a fuss about it. It's just not helping anything.

As for all the others defending us or retaliating for us, I admire that you're either caring or just really hella shrewd, but stop. I know I was indifferent or even admittedly eager to watch you wreak your havoc, but it really doesn't put a good image on the site to be playing tricks or to not let this go when they won't. I'm not upset at you, because it's obvious you care. Right now it's just about doing the smart thing, and as fun and relieving it may be laying a fist to XNR3's face, it's just not going to help a thing and it's ultimately going to make things worse.

And really, from here and going on out, just separate yourself from them. If KY's crew reregisters, we ban him again. If they flame us on their forum, we never even see it. I admit even I have been entertaining ideas to wreak an unholy revenge on these guys, but what does that say about me- as a person, as a global moderator, as one of the most prominent members and leaders of this site? It'd really just prove I'm as much of a ♥♥♥♥ as they say I am. Oh, we can go on and on about how wrong they are about us, but the only way I can show that I'm not an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is to be the bigger man and let this go, and the site would be best in doing the same.

Thank you.

~MoD

P.S. As I'm undoubtedly sure that this will reach XNR3 at some point, I want to address Nana- as it's been said many times, banning you as a person is unwarranted, and they're right in saying that you don't deserve it. You are indeed a very nice person and I'm sorry things couldn't have gone differently. But as it stands, you are Koopa's girlfriend, and while I don't have a problem with who you date, it does mean that Koopa can use you as an outlet to get to us, even through your computer. We just can't afford to have that risk. Just as I'm removing my comrades from your forum, I must defend our forum from yours. I hope you'll understand.

Re: The Truth Is...

PostPosted: March 9th, 2012, 7:49 pm
by Venexis
Wow.

I mean, seriously. Wow.

What now. Is there even a comeback to this? You, MoD, are amazing; it's pretty obvious why you were chosen for the Global Moderator position, and quite frankly anyone who thinks otherwise should really look around and contrast our site with the rest of the internet as a whole.

I'd put in a slowclap.gif but can't find it... just assume the thumbs-up means the same thing, and keep up the awesome work.

Re: The Truth Is...

PostPosted: March 9th, 2012, 8:22 pm
by Avo
Being a long time veteran of the site, I have never even touched on this subject. I never visited their site, I barely paid attention to their flames, and this is possibly the first time me hearing about our beloved site members attacking their site. Really, this is just a war that will not end.

So thank you, Moy, for making that announcement. I hope to god that everyone will listen to you and finally forget about that site and move on.

EDIT: (Completely forgot to add this)

Hopefully this whole incident will be laid to rest and we can forget about them. But I'm about to say something that I hope you guys can remember.

We've had incidents with bad members in the past. Raymond, Aelita, OS6, and a couple others. But don't think that's it. No matter how long this site is gonna live, someone is always gonna come and try to ♥♥♥♥ up our site just like XNR3. These future "notorious a-holes" can pop up anytime. Heck, the next one could arrive a year from now, a month, a week, or maybe tomorrow. I just want you guys to be prepared for when that happens.

Re: The Truth Is...

PostPosted: March 9th, 2012, 9:54 pm
by Doram
Venexis wrote:I'd put in a slowclap.gif but can't find it...

I got your back, Ven. Especially since I agree that it is totally deserved.

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MoD, I agree wholeheartedly with everything you've said. I couldn't have put it better myself. Bravo, sir. You have come a long way, and I am quite proud of you.

Everybody out there, listen to this man.

Re: The Truth Is...

PostPosted: March 9th, 2012, 10:07 pm
by nin10mode
I'm reminded of Zed's and PoM's old forums back in the anti-moy days. Come to think of it, we did the exact same things then. Even Suyo played a part in our antics then, and I think I remember sticking up for them when I registered. Are we really maturing as a site? We've stopped being angry over stuff like this for the most part, but now we're take it too lightly. I know I said in the chat that I might try reregistering just to see what's going on there, though I remember that I never truly hated anyone so much to spam their forum or spy before. Even I treat it like a big joke, which I now see is terrible. Had I known that Usu and the others were being affected, maybe I would have decided to say something then.

I don't want Usu to get anymore pain from the internet along with what he's experienced in real life, I don't want to see MP3's positive attitude go away for even a split second, and I don't want Link to regret his life like he has before. At the same time, I want xnr3 to forget about it, and I see that us causing trouble there will not help. I've only posted once on xnr3, a long time ago, to post a rant. Never have I went there to spam, flame, or spy, and never will I do that on any forum.

Guys, stay in the places where you know you'll have fun. XNR3 will only cause grief, and I'm ashamed to not have realized how much grief it has caused already.

Re: The Truth Is...

PostPosted: March 10th, 2012, 1:26 am
by Asterocrat
Gosh MoD.

Is it possible to award two cookie medals to the same people? Because I'm starting to wonder...

No, but yeah, but great speech. Though it has been a ♥♥♥♥ long time since I last thought of XNR3. Too bad, now I think of the good ol' days, Koopa Yoshi being nice and everything. What the ♥♥♥♥ happened to this guy.

And like I said a ♥♥♥♥ long time before to them, just forget about that war. But they just don't listen. Hopefully they will listen to you, MoD. Let's hope it's the last time we hear of XNR3, and that everything is fine then :3

Also, I've never seen so much swearing in a post. Calm down, MoD :P

Re: The Truth Is...

PostPosted: March 10th, 2012, 3:11 am
by Bogdan
I need to admit that I started this war unfortunatelly, but it supposed to be only between Xnr3 and EpicWorld, and I am really sorry :?
I also need to admit that some weeks ago i tried to halt xnr3 getting runouwians members, untill now I could save DK64Fan, unfortunatelly I do not think that we can tell Supermario123 or Yoshi999 to stop visiting, it is pretty complicated, since everyone got crazy and make their own forums so for example Yoshi999 and DK's forums are full of xnr3ians. And i hardly think we can tell MP3 or Karyete t=leave them since they have "friends" here.


...


Let's skip directly to the end....

...I cannot meet KY on any site i joined [excepting Jcink Support forum] because he is perma'd here, on ew, ra, and mfw. So I will be waaaaaaay more calm now.

Sooooo Auf Wiedersehen KY and xnr3ians.

Re: The Truth Is...

PostPosted: March 10th, 2012, 4:19 am
by Blablob
Bogdan wrote:I need to admit that I started this war unfortunatelly, but it supposed to be only between Xnr3 and EpicWorld, and I am really sorry :?

Whatever the circumstance, not any one person can be blamed for an issue that has escalated to this extent. It doesn't matter who "started" it; the facter of the matter is that, from my own understanding, many people have contributed, and continue to provoke this situation. Don't belittle yourself.

You know, when I had heard of all this folly quite a few months ago, about everything going on at KY's forums, I honestly expected that it would quickly blow over, to be forgotten by everyone, but obviously the problem has grown way out of proportion. I took another look at KY's forum when I read this topic, just to see what the members were up to, and I couldn't believe how far they've let themselves worsen the issue. Apologies for having a bit of faith in them, because I assumed that sooner or later, like all of us, they'd realize the idiocy of the entire situation and would eventually come to terms with themselves. And I know that will happen, some day, but for now they seem way too preoccupied on harassing us--and oh my God, I've never seen anything more sad in my life.

For something so childish and immature as what I've seen there, there's no use to retaliate. Things have gotten quite a bit more hasty than I would've presumed they would.

MoD is so right, though. People, this issue just needs to be scrapped altogether. XNR3 may forever live as a forum dedicated to harassing us, who knows. It's only our problem if we make it our problem, and all of you are just way too smart to let that happen. There's a point when we need to realize that those we try to reason with refuse to listen to us, and that is the point when we need to stop reasoning with them. That's how, in my utmost sincerity, I expect this issue to be solved; let it fade away, let it solve itself--make it their problem, not ours.

And above all us, realize that there are more important aspects in life than wondering why someone dislikes you. Don't allow yourselves to be engulfed in something as stupid as this. Sooner or later, KY and the rest of them will have to come to terms with themselves. And in such a case, it is their problem, not ours.

Re: The Truth Is...

PostPosted: March 10th, 2012, 4:57 am
by Karyete
Err, you do realise that XNR3ians treat me as a great, trustworthy friend?

My response: :o_O:

They like me as if I was a true XNR3ian. I'm not. Ever. The only one who doesn't like me is Qualon (remember that buttmunch, right?). He hates me and flames me any way possible. But, yes, MoD, I'm gonna use you're idea and follow it! :awe:

Re: The Truth Is...

PostPosted: March 10th, 2012, 7:59 am
by SuYo1141
........................
I am speechless.
For once someone actually found the time to design a speech possibly ending a 6-month war in one fell swoop.
Thank you.....
Thank you so much.....