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Whatever

PostPosted: December 7th, 2015, 7:49 am
by TheSeceratary
Whatever
This level was made to simply be difficult. I need reviews, and be as harsh as you see fit.

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Super Mario 63
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Re: Whatever

PostPosted: December 7th, 2015, 12:47 pm
by Supershroom
Oh well. If you say you need reviews, you should still try to design "normally" and then ask for that. Because this one is simply unplayable, despite showing a few interesting approaches.

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These clouds are simply too far away to be climbed, downright impossible without FLUDD, and triple jumping can only get you 4 tiles high. Except if you have Luigi maybe, which is not relevant because you can't get him from the on-site version of the level designer. The thing with the piled tipping logs also seems to be unpassable for the same reason. Whatever you create, playtest it enough. I've also seen lava cutoff, this needs to be preferably surrounded with something like e.g. lava mini-cubes. I'm not talking further about the graphics, since this level wasn't meant to be serious from the looks. So I hope this is a sort of lesson for you what to not do, and for those things you should do I recommend to you the same I recommend to everyone else, which is playing professional high quality levels and looking at them. I don't see why you shouldn't be able to take the same road that people like e.g. Jumbo or awesomeguy took.

Re: Whatever

PostPosted: December 13th, 2015, 2:59 pm
by HickRanger
Supershroom is right in terms of unplayability. Additionally, you need to put some land underneath the Shine Sprite, or else you cannot beat the level.
I have made multiple difficult levels, and an approach you may want to take with the Shine Sprite is what I do in Bowser's Challenges...
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...where you must activate a switch, then rush to the Sprite before the switch block underneath goes away and causes you to die.

My shameless plugs aside, it is a decent level.

A few things I don't really like about it are the lack of music (no real reason not to have music) and how you often put more items than you really need in some spots.
I understand that the level is meant to be hard - I like hard, hard levels are almost all I make - but you need to be specific in what you place and where.
If you aren't very specific about what you place in a hard level and where, those things WILL be abused.
The Boos in the beginning are a good example - a player having difficulty jumping on those small logs can jump on the Boos instead.

Making lava in general look good is usually difficult, or at least it would be hard to do well in your level.
If you're careful not to place too many, a possible replacement would be flame towers - but making the level look good is less important than functionality.

In summary, you have a decent level and some good ideas, but you aren't experienced enough in making hard levels yet. 2/5 stars.
I suggest you play some hard levels to get a better idea of what Mario and the items can do.