Minecart Mineshaft

[danny18078]

Minecart Mineshaft
Welcome to Minecart Mineshaft, a mineshaft filled with goombas, lava, breakable blocks, and minecarts! The missions are on Runouw.com; find this level, and you will see them. It also includes a seperate level code when you find a warp pipe that dosn't go anywhere. Please rate and review

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Welcome to Minecart Mineshaft, a place that is filled with... you know. Big thanks to everyone who reviewed wonderfully. This is one of the few levels that weren't inspired by SM 64, so please criticize and review as hard/easy as you want. Now, here are the missions:
Mission 1: Mining for the Shine Sprite
*Mission 2:Seeking the red coins
**Mission 3:Thwomp cave in!
Mission 4: Lava pool switch pit
***Mission 5: Secret of the acid
*DO NOT collect the silver star for this mission.
**At the far left, where the large amount of thwomps are. You may play Boss fight 2 music (Speedy Comet) on Youtube if you like.
***When you find the warp pipe that doesn't lead anywhere, load this level code. I'm not sure I want to merge this code this time:

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Please rate and review. I want to know how this level is.
EDIT: I fixed the level pertaining to HickRanger's advice.
EDITEDIT: I fully fixed the level, it is complete! Sorry for all the mistakes I did.

[Charcoal]

You ought to put more display into your levels. Work on graphics a bit more and add more tile variation. There were some likable things, but I think it just...needs more. I liked the design for the acid though.

[HickRanger]

The first thing you'll notice is the design of the level. It's atypical, and not in a good way.

You mix tiles from different tilesets, which is usually not a good idea.
You also tend to forgo surface and wall tiles in favor of filler tiles.

There is a lot of cutoff in this level, which is obvious even if you choose not to zoom out.

The breakable stone blocks near the beginning, you can get stuck on top of those and die.
You need to make sure you can't get on top of those stone blocks, or make more room above them so you aren't crushed to death.

You cannot collect the eight red coins sprite at the beginning of the level - unless you collect the one silver star right beside it.

The minecart was nice, I like the idea. It's original.

The acid does not really look like acid - which isn't your fault, since there is no acid. You probably should have just used lava.
Also, by the arrow shown with the orange switch, tons of Thwomps keep making sounds and it sounds inappropriate.
You probably have the Thwomps have too big a range and not enough room for them to actually hit. Look at them.

In the long, decorationless cave hallway, why is there a Metal Star?
The water room doesn't have anything you need to Ground Pound and the acid is too far away for this to be useful.

I also personally think that if a level is meant to have multiple missions - as this one is - you should have a different approach.
I think you should have started the player off in a lobby that had warp pipes allowing him to choose which mission to do.

There are five shine sprites here, sure, but you're doing the 8 red coin mission. That is the only mission.
Understand: Every Shine Sprite is the same. NO Shine Sprite is available if there are red coins or silver stars uncollected in the level.
If you are going to do a multimission level again, DO NOT make a red coin or silver star mission, or else that will be the only option.

The inside of your warp pipe has a better design than the rest of the stage because it doesn't mix tiles as much and more or less sticks to the block tileset.

In conclusion, you are very inexperienced in level design. 1/5.
You know some things, but you don't know enough about the game to design a good level - your design is just bad.

Making your levels functional and making them look good just takes some thought.
Ask yourself if it looks good and if you understand what you are meant to do at all times.
You should playtest your own levels to learn how things work and make sure they work in the context of your level.
It will save you a lot of trouble down the road.

I'm sure that you can make good levels eventually, but you have to remember to keep trying.

[danny18078]

@HickRanger
Okay, I fixed the level using your advice. But clearly you haven't seen a mineshaft.

There was different tilesets for a reason, at the beginning, the sand mixed with jungle ground makes it have a nice mixture, and all of you guys apparently like tile mixing.

But thanks for letting me know about the cutoff.

There are 5 missions for a reason, and 4 of them are activated by a silver star. If I didn't put the star there, then all of the missions would have to be activated by all 8 red coins. Have you not seen my other levels?!

I also removed the acid, this was inspired by a level called "the jungle of icey poison", which was way better than my acid.

There was the metal star for a reason: So you can get past the acid/lava! How else could you get through?

And don't worry, I have tried the warp pipe mission select, like in Cold Hot world and my mini-courses.

As I have said above, the silver star was for a reason. It was not supposed to be hard to get. Directly at the beginning, there is a sign that states why.

I have playtested my levels (all of them), I don't really concentrate on so-called "graphics", and I have made good levels already.

[Charcoal]

Hey. If you get a 1/5, well...you get a 1/5. Just learn from it and move on.

[Supershroom]

... except that this 1/5 appears to be kinda harsh to me, seeing that there's visible effort. Except if there's a larger problem deeper insight (like huge lag from something) ... okay, there's quite much cutoff, but this would only learn a low graphics score, it could still earn enough points from Fun to reach at least a 2 star rating in my book. danny, I see that you tried to go new creative ways with your tiling, but you need bricks and walls to avoid unfinished edges from cave ground. Also, the signs are ♥♥♥♥ up, which comes from having the level made in a levelplayer opened from another level. Use the in-game designer (e.g. download version) to be safe on that. Keep practicing and ask for advice through PM or stuff if needed.

And @HickRanger, never ever make a statement like "your level design is bad" just because you've found one not-so-successful level. This is possible to be considered flaming. Stay constructive.