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Re: LDC Hall of Fame

PostPosted: July 22nd, 2015, 7:49 am
by MessengerOfDreams
Updated for research purposes

MessengerOfDreams wrote:Here's the LDC Success Averages!

What I did was that I took the top 5 entrants, added their scores up and averaged them out by Mean. Funnily enough, the averages are usually in spitting distance of the third place of the contest. If a contest only awarded 4 people, I only add the top 4. If a contest has ties, I only judge five levels. If two are tied, I will judge 1st to 4th. Thus, for the 3rd LDC, I add together the 1st placer and the four second placers.

So, from top to bottom!

1. 20th LDC (All Things Mario): Top 5 Average of 17.15
2. 2nd (Bowser's New Castle): 17
3. 4th (Halloween): 16.8
4. 18th (Freestyle): 16.76
5. 16th (Music): 16.63
6. 7th (Treasure): 16.6
7. 25th (First Three Themes): 16.52
8. 29th (Grasslands): 16.38
9. 10th (Space): 16.31
10. 3rd (Desert Oasis): 16.2
11. 13th (Beach): 16.15
12. 1st (Hot and Cold): 16
13. 5th (Unfinished): 15.99 <-------WHOA
14. 8th (Garden): 15.98

15. 21st (Cave/Story): 15.9
16. 24th (Forest): 15.85
17. 19th (Death): 15.81
18. 23rd (Science): 15.8

19. 14th (Pure Platformer): 15.71
20. 27th (Water): 15.6
21. 15th (Earth and Sky): 15.58
22. 17th (Winter): 15.39
23. 28th (Urban): 15.25
24. 12th (Alternate Dimension): 15.17
25. 11th (Apocalypse): 15.12
26. 6th (Airship): 15.06
27. 22nd (Fire): 14.88
28. 9th (Runouw/Bridge): 14.8
29. 26th (Conflict): 14.625

Re: LDC Hall of Fame

PostPosted: July 22nd, 2015, 7:54 am
by Oranjui
exactly what you'd expect at the top, all the mario things

You could also add the mini-ldcs from halloween/25quared and stuff, just to see how they rank.

Also it's kind of funny that Conflict is on bottom. I guess you could say people were a bit... conflicted. okay I'll stop now.

Re: LDC Hall of Fame

PostPosted: July 22nd, 2015, 8:19 am
by MessengerOfDreams
The thing is that mini LDCs have an entirely different quality of standard. Smaller levels mean an adjusted score scale.

Anyway the reason I'm doing this is to see whether levels have hit a lower rate of score or higher, and plan to adjust the 29 winners to scale. The total average is 15.92 for top 5 levels of each LDC (usually, sometimes top 4 or 3 depending on what levels are listed). 2009 was inflated way up, 2010-2011 down, 2012 and 2013 up, 2014 down. We'll see how that affects the winners.

Re: LDC Hall of Fame

PostPosted: July 22nd, 2015, 4:09 pm
by MessengerOfDreams
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B2d ... =drive_web

I went ahead and calculated averages to determine what winning scores would be on this new average. Obviously this would affect all scores.

How I did it-

I divided each era into a year, with the exception of 2014+ given the lack of LDCs in the new era. I only included the 29 main LDCs. The yearly segment was to go by WITBLO, and often to account for population refreshes- the retirement of old members and rise of new ones with new standards. This also gives a spread of time where the designer itself evolved and we theoretically became more or less impressed by what we saw.

Every year, I took the average of the top 5 of each LDC to get to the meat of memorable entrants. If less than 5 medaled, I'd just go with the ones mentioned in the Hall here. This got to the meat of memorable entrants without taking into account the outlying bad entrants, or LDCs with less spread due to less entrants.

From there took all the LDC averages of a year and averaged it down.

Then I took the average of all 29 LDCs and compared it to the year average. From there on out, I'd use percentages to find out how much of each score I'd take to get the updated score. For example, the 18 from the 2nd LDC would have 97.08% left, which gave us 17.41. I did this for all 31 winners.

Let me know what you think of the data! Is it fair, can it be improved, is it indicative? The pattern seems to be very up and down but very distinct.

Re: LDC Hall of Fame

PostPosted: July 22nd, 2015, 9:51 pm
by Asterocrat
Okay now that is awesome data and a sweet idea. I enjoy seeing Dark at the top

Re: LDC Hall of Fame

PostPosted: July 26th, 2015, 8:17 am
by ~MP3 Amplifier~
I'll settle with Hell's Rebellion having a 16 score :>>>>

Also:

Image

Added to the mini LDCs collection post. Took me long enough. (to remember that is, the titlecard itself was like half an hour lol)

Re: LDC Hall of Fame

PostPosted: December 27th, 2015, 11:09 am
by MessengerOfDreams
Thinkin' bout adding the mini-LDCs to the main post- also someone needs to set up the Runolympics LDC in the minis post regardless.

Re: LDC Hall of Fame

PostPosted: January 5th, 2016, 10:30 pm
by MessengerOfDreams
Did some trickery and updatery. Will do more when I have the energy. Fake Reality has been added to the Winner List, the ROLDC was added to minis, minis were moved to Page 1, and some little touches. I wanna add winner entrants for the 6 mini-contests, and whenever Amp can add photo collages for the LDCs, aces

Re: LDC Hall of Fame

PostPosted: January 6th, 2016, 7:00 am
by ~MP3 Amplifier~
Yayy titlecards :>

I love doing them so expect them at some point soon.

Re: LDC Hall of Fame

PostPosted: January 7th, 2016, 4:41 pm
by Awesomeguy 99
Oh yeah, just realized I'm on here now in the Runolympics LDC part, that is literally my best accomplishment of last year