The Guilds of Runouw

[Venexis]

According to me a couple pages back in the thread we're getting the new map on febuary 15th


also can we all make some sort of promise to not go fast next map

New map when 1.8 is out pls

Also, how not fast did you have in mind?

[Raz]

According to me a couple pages back in the thread we're getting the new map on febuary 15th


also can we all make some sort of promise to not go fast next map

New map when 1.8 is out pls

Also, how not fast did you have in mind?

I dunno, just uh, not focus on getting super duper enchanted diamond everything in only a day

[Venexis]

Only thing I'd rush would be a nether portal (glowstone <3), maybe not even that depending on who my character is. That sounds good though.

Might be an issue though, some people (myself included) have stayed on for hours at a time... it gets boring. :p

[Venexis]

This post by Venexis was thumbed up by: 2

nin10mode (February 6th, 2014, 5:39 pm) • Oranjui (February 7th, 2014, 2:28 pm)

[Oranjui]

And no grinders. That means you, Master.

I mean like, sitting at a mob spawner and attacking the mobs that come out is okay, but no fall traps or anything like that for mass farming XP, heads, bones, pearls, whatever.

[Raz]

my thoughts for next map:
- new members forced to join guild with least members if all the guilds are not evenly numbered
- maybe (?) random guild members (excluding leader who is not random)
- some sort of economy
- ban grinders
- something to enforce more rp
- more stuff i don't remember

[Venexis]

- ban grinders

Nah, let people make grinders. As long as they're careful (not walking around paying for things with a ridiculous amount of heads), nobody should suspect they have one, and it causes no problems. If they're not careful, fights would break out over the grinder and it'll probably end up disabled, if not destroyed. Conflict weeeeee But uh, the permission to utterly destroy any grinders you find should be added to the rules just so that people can't ♥♥♥♥♥ when their OP XP farms are ruined.

And really, all you'd need to do as shopkeeper would be stop accepting skeleton/zombie heads. Creeper would still be cool because no spawners for them.

Addressing your other stuff:

- new members forced to join guild with least members if all the guilds are not evenly numbered

Sure, as long as there's no settling restrictions. I am vehemently against it if it means settling in a biome I do not care for, and I think many of the more aesthetic builders would be with me on this.

- maybe (?) random guild members (excluding leader who is not random)

Yes please, it prevents "power players" from sticking together (hopefully) as well as encouraging interaction with other factions.

- some sort of economy

Taken care of, using heads as different denominations of currency (will require head plugins).

- something to enforce more rp

Pretty much covered with the above points, although tweaks could be made after seeing how well things pan out.

[Raz]

I feel like having grinders will mess up the economy more than possible and it's just not worth them ♥♥♥♥ up everything. Probably doesn't make any sense but whatever.

[Venexis]

The problem with banning them is there's no way to moderate it, though. Banning them doesn't mean people will stop, it'll just mean they'll hide it better, and others will deny involvement. If there's a choice offered (build a grinder and risk someone destroying it, or just settle for a regular spawner that's protected by the no griefing player bases rule) people are less likely to feel intimidated by the rules and as a result the server becomes more inviting.

I dunno. I'm pretty sure people are going to exploit spawners whether it's against a rule or not, I'd just feel uncomfortable being "that admin" who wrecks someone's work because it's required in the rules when I could just as easily let whoever found the thing handle it in game (perhaps even roleplay it?) without the abuse of creative/op powers we tried to do without this map. With such a close userbase and the global/local/private chat hierarchy, it would be easy to see who always has X heads available, and therefore who probably has an X grinder somewhere. Dynmap can show places they spend a lot of time at (I feel like hiding on dynmap should be disallowed for this reason), put two and two together and that's all the information another player really needs to investigate.

Although we really haven't done either (banning them, or allowing destruction of them) so there's not much to base this off of. Tweaking will almost certainly be necessary.

[Karyete]

I'm just going to interject my opinion and say I like the idea of allowing but destroying grinders.