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Re: Amp's Official Level Designer Tier List

Postby ~MP3 Amplifier~ » January 9th, 2016, 6:12 am

Well, in order to hear everyone's views on this I have set up a poll now. You have 3 days to get in your votes so please do so.
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Re: Amp's Official Level Designer Tier List

Postby MessengerOfDreams » January 9th, 2016, 11:12 pm

if I'm being honest I think Amp should take #1. In no way is this a bag on me. I'm confident enough in myself and my decent performance this year to take #2 without reservations. It's not a self-consciousness thing. But I think that if you look at it side-to-side, technically Amp is performing with more success than I am in LDCs, and has been more active, and due to my sickness she'll probably be more active. She was second to me in the 29th LDC (I think?), placed top 4 in the Runolympics, and beat Veso and I in the 30th with a really ♥♥♥♥♥' level. I'm definitely down to challenge the lead when I get the chance to, but as it stands I'd say Amp has earned it just enough moreso to take the top.
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Re: Amp's Official Level Designer Tier List

Postby 1018peter » January 9th, 2016, 11:29 pm

Believe it or not, everyone below me on the Tier List is better than me, to different extents.

I shouldn't even be in Silver Tier, let alone the entire list.
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Re: Amp's Official Level Designer Tier List

Postby Harmless » January 10th, 2016, 12:06 am

lol I'm not better than you in the slightest

You don't see me performing well in LDC's, the only thing I got was a lucky 4th place in the 27th(?) or something.
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Re: Amp's Official Level Designer Tier List

Postby MessengerOfDreams » January 10th, 2016, 3:05 am

One thing about the minitiers that makes me hesitant is that they're super way out of date and I'd imagine they'd be a royal pain to continuously update. Maybe yearly awards? Idk
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I switch my signature a lot. If you wanna see some of my past ones, here you go.
Silent Conversations and a Crow's Final Song!
My latest story, and one of my personal favorites. A girl bound in silence finds the words to say to her prospective girlfriend as they visit her religious father in a dusty town on the edge of Kansas, where the crows' migration south brings forth anchored memories, the path to resolution, and a new start.

Form (25quared)
This might be like nothing you've seen before.
Updated Works! Some of my past best and current stuff: show
Writing Works!
Fanfic: Shut Up and Dance
why do I write so much about dancing you don't dance you've never danced in your entire life
lying little ♥♥♥♥ with your ♥♥♥♥ story ♥♥♥♥ you
also Diddy/Lucina <3

Fanfic: Worth a Thousand Words
Because the world needed a Samus/Dedede story
Fanfic: Ecstatic Silence
Just wanted to write and ♥♥♥♥ like this happens, you'd think I'd know better.
Fanfic: Far From the Edge
It's a dance that's been a long time coming for a brand new man and an unchanging woman, but once one takes the plunge there's no falling back up.
Original: Jealous Ghosts of the Mississippi
The story of Rachel meeting Amber after a lifetime of silence and being shunned
Original: Your Hand in Mine
One of my most personal stories about a dangerous romance. Now to be published in a college lit journal!
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Recent LDC Work:
Level Series: Leaves From The Vine (ft Star King)
For the 29th LDC, a theme of grassland taken through the growth of our designing society. Won the 29th LDC!
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Re: Amp's Official Level Designer Tier List

Postby Supershroom » January 10th, 2016, 4:09 am

1018peter wrote:Believe it or not, everyone below me on the Tier List is better than me, to different extents.

I shouldn't even be in Silver Tier, let alone the entire list.

Stop it, please. I may respect you having a way too pessimistic opinion about yourself, but constantly carrying out this self-hatred and masochistic attitude becomes annoying actually.

As for who should take number 1, I'm actually not that sure after I read MoD's post, from this side things look different, and yet not convincing enough for me. I have a crazy idea: Maybe have a quick duel with each other, if none of you enters the LL LDC and MoD is up for it despite her situation? That would be more effective than a plain poll or something.
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2 stars: (6 - 9.75) These levels are not terrible, but poor. They're too short, lack scenery or they have errors and/or bugs but it's still barely enjoyable. Again, spend more effort and try to do better. (if it's your first level that I rate two stars, it's not bad. There's a long way you can still go)

3 stars: (10 - 12.75) These levels are about mediocre. They may be still a little bit short, the gameplay is fine but not very original and graphics are also solid, but not breath-taking. Try to keep improving!

4 stars: (13 - 15) These levels are nice, but not the best. Effort has been put into them, there can some professionality be seen in gameplay and graphics, they're a nice experience to play, but there are still things you can do to make it even better. Try to go the extra mile!

5 stars: (15.25 - 20) These are really great levels, those which, as said, I would give more than 15 in an LDC. These suffice many high requirements, and it already goes into subtleties if you want to make them better. These levels are successful all around. Bravo.

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Re: Amp's Official Level Designer Tier List

Postby 1018peter » January 10th, 2016, 4:41 am

No. What I meant is people who ranked below me are REALLY better than I am.

(Sure that's my own subjective view and I shouldn't change Amp's subjective view but)


Seriously, it's like crediting me for more than I worth. Granted I'm a pretty OK Level Designer, but I have no right to be above the likes of, say, Ayrayen, whose 24th LDC entry amazed everyone so much. And, Jumbo101, who kept bringing innovative impacts to the LDing scene, like the platform-based health bar.

Then again, you may say activity counts as well because a lot of famed LDers dropped down the top of the tiers because they're inactive, but what really count (imo) are their works, which are eternal as long as this site lives on.



Long story short, credit LDers for their works, not their activity.
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Re: Amp's Official Level Designer Tier List

Postby l.m » January 10th, 2016, 5:01 am

1018peter wrote:Long story short, credit LDers for their works, not their activity.


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Re: Amp's Official Level Designer Tier List

Postby Charcoal » January 10th, 2016, 5:36 am

Whatever works for the tier list. I wish we could include rankings for both activity to allow new designers to shine and past works for the inactive people to still remain on there.
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Re: Amp's Official Level Designer Tier List

Postby ~MP3 Amplifier~ » January 10th, 2016, 7:10 am

If the tier list was based on my opinion of designers' skills, I wouldn't even be on there, let alone up so high. So yeah. This list is not called the "order of self esteem". If anything, the reason some of you took a huge jump was more to do with the fact that I just wanted to push down some of the oldies, after all this list is supposed to be about the current scene. And there are still some people like Buff and Four and Murph who are probably way too high up really, but I also had to be realistic and realise I couldn't move everyone up into the gold tier overnight.

That's not to say that if any oldies made a comeback, they wouldn't be higher on the list again.
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