Subforum Reorganization: Episode II

[MessengerOfDreams]

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Doram (January 11th, 2016, 1:38 pm)

[NanTheDark]

I've been in this forum for five years.

I still have no freaking idea of what Forum 23 is.

[Oranjui]

Idk why it's still called Forum 23 because it's a really dumb name but it's literally just the staff forum. Its forum ID is 23.

Also, I meant to say that the original levels would be sent to the author via PM if we went through with that, but I don't think it's very likely anyway. I'm fine with having locked topics and unfinished series.

[Venexis]

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Oranjui (January 10th, 2016, 2:31 pm)

[Supershroom]

Depth of subforums tend to be overkill in the Graveyard. And since the Graveyard is also still important to many (numbers of Views are still increasing), it's no damage to put it on the Index, especially considering that we're saving much space on the index already.

There. And now how I imagine the cleanup of the level designer forums. It simply shall happen to clean these forums from noobish acts, and let the essential topics be undisturbed from them. There are so many level series topics where it would be the eigth Wonder of the World if the creator came back and PM'd missing levels. We don't have to wait on those, it's sometimes pretty obvious after a month already. And primarily I'm talking about graveyarding in favour of deleting. The deletage can actually happen to levels that wouldn't be approved on the portal anyway. If a person manages to PM the missing levels, the thing can still be de-graveyarded.

Here are examples of what should be taken away from the level designer forums (first four pages). With due respect to the authors, these are just trash more or less.

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http://runouw.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=48972
http://runouw.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=48497
http://runouw.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=47562
http://runouw.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=47679
http://runouw.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=45065%20(okay,%20not%20that%20much%20of%20trash%20tbh,%20but%20could%20have%20still%20removed%20immediately%20instead%20of%20a%20pointless%20lock)
http://runouw.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=47450 (yes, although it isn't locked)

And here be examples from Level Series: (Page 1)

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http://runouw.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=49575
http://runouw.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=47546
http://runouw.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=47531 (this one is extraordinarily dumb)
http://runouw.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=47350
http://runouw.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=47172
http://runouw.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=46444

Et cetera perge perge.

[Doram]

And, as I thought, there's still raging debate over this. Now we're having the debate. Good. Carry on.


EDIT: Had a thought: if we are combining all the LL generals into one, how do we differentiate between threads meant for one chapter or another (it DOES make a difference)? Are we going to enforce a naming rule (such as thread names must start with "Chapter X:"), and are we going to re-name old threads to fit the new rule (so as to eliminate confusion about what they were about)? Is it worth making some sub-forums to keep these separate if not?

[l.m]

Leave people with the incomplete series alone

Because if they still exist then it might mean there's a chance of the creator updating it sometime, even if it's a really slight chance

Also we don't delete any incomplete series in the vault of any LDC, do we?

[Venexis]

I can't tell if Doram's post was edited after FF posted but to address the Chapter 1&2 thing... do you mean it does make a difference, or were you asking if it did? If it does make a difference, would it be possible to add a thing to the Level Portal submission form requiring you to check the game version used to create the level?

And again, Runouw, if you're reading this... it would be REALLY NICE to know what the hell you had wanted to do with all this before we just go ahead and do what we think is best, thanks

[Doram]

Runouw had wanted to just have all the LL stuff be only there, and the SM63 stuff only here. He's said that. The entire point of making the new site was to make sure that LL didn't suffer if Nintendo got a hard-on for shutting down SM63 and made us shut this down completely.

EDIT: Also, I wasn't even getting into 1, 2, and 1+2. I was just dealing with the existing 1, and 2, but yes, the 1+2 makes it even MORE confusing for the noob that comes in trying to make sense of a forum full of threads. And, I was stating that it makes a difference, not asking if it did. Clearly id lists will only work for one version or another, for example.

[Oranjui]

Could easily do a tagging system as was proposed for Story subforums.
[Ch1]
[Ch2]
[Remix]
[Ch3]


By the way I wrote a draft for story forum tagging rules, tell me how it sounds:

"This is the new tagging system for the Stories subforum. Please prefix your posts with one or more of these when creating a new thread.

Original	[FF]	Fanfiction
	[FM]	Forum-Related Stories	Self-explanatory. Basically [FF] except for specifically within the realm of Runouw.com because that was really popular for a while.
	[OC]	Original	Fiction or nonfiction, anything original--that is, written (at least partially) by you, and doesn't fit into any other tags.
	[SS]	Short Stories	Original short stories or collections thereof.
	[PO]	Poetry	Poetry collections and individual poems.
	[OT]	Other	For serious RPGs that don't belong in Forum Games, choose-your-own-adventure stories, and generally things that don't fit into other tags but still count as stories.
Other	[CH]	Challenges	Contests, constrained writings, writing prompts, and other things of that nature (never ending story, anyone?).
	[MT]	Meta	For all news, events, ideas, plans, questions, announcements, advice, and other discussion related to your writing, this subforum, or the world of writing in general. Also can be used to link to external work done by others that you want to discuss here.

You can combine tags if you want, but usually that's unnecessary because they're already implied--for example, you don't need to label something as [FF/FM], since forum-related already implies fanfiction, and you don't need [OC/SS], because short story already implies original. But if you have a collection of short stories and poetry that you want to post, tag it [SS/PO]. Or if you're posting a poetry challenge, you can tag it as [CH/PO]. But I mean, we're not gonna be policing this stuff or anything, so you can do whatever you want with it; just use common sense and don't go overboard with it."