Forum Header Re-arrange

[Kimonio]

This post by Kimonio was thumbed up by:

Oranjui (March 14th, 2016, 6:41 pm)

[Doram]

What do you want on the NON-ANIMATED part of the header? (Part 2) (No means not on header at all)
Poll ended at March 9th, 2016, 9:21 pm

Option	Votes	Percent
Members (Link to list of current members) - Yes		7%
Members - No		16%
Logout - Yes		23%
Logout - No		2%
Search Box (in any form - box, button, link or ortherwise) - Yes		23%
Search Box - No		2%
Advanced Search (in any form - button, link or ortherwise) - Yes		19%
Advanced Search - No		7%
	Total votes : 43

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Final results on contents of header:

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NOT on the header at all: Music - Could add a link from elsewhere, FAQ, game pages, something. Members - Has been suggested that it be changed to text links in the footer.

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Current: Discussion on Graphical Options.

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I've realized that overall graphical options will affect the final overall layout, so I'm adding a point of discussion for it.

Possible polls

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Suggested for overall abstract layout (will get a poll soon, if we don't come up with other options):

• Animated and non-animated on top, search and cookie crumb below.
• Animated on top, non animated and others below.

Need more discussion/suggestions for overall graphical style (will become poll later, possibly decide this first?)

• Doram's Country-style versus city-style
• Doram's Train Idea
• SM63 style vs LL style
• Some combo of SM63 and LL elements
• GT needs more love, and who remembers Keytar Hero? Smash Bros Engine?
• Generic usage of current palette for something slightly modern looking, but classy...
• Attack of the pixel art...
• Other stuff...?

Suggested modification for the footer (will get a poll later):

• Text link addition for "Members" info on footer.
• Possible addition of "Search for Member" link as well.
• Figure on positioning: left, center, right? etc.

Continuing discussion

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So, you like the layout, but not the graphics? No prob. This IS our opportunity to completely redo things, if we want. I'm not against a neon green and black motif, as Runouw has used that in a few places, like in GT, or we could come up with something else with our existing blue, cyan, black, and grey palette. I just want to keep some touch of Runouw to it all, since this is ultimately their place for discussion of their stuff. Runouw does make 2D games, which is technically retro, so it isn't completely out of the question to keep some element of retro to the thing. I have always loved those mountains, for example, which is why I wanted to put them back into the header in some form, and I also intended to have some kind of toggle to switch to a city view with the current buildings and the mountains in the background - either something subtle like making the background clickable, or having an extra setting (custom field) in the User Control Panel. And, as much as I adore the off-kilter letter version of the Runouw logo, since they HAVEN'T used that in either of the LL games, or the LL website, technically, even that is up for replacement. We could go with a totally pixel-art look, something middle-modern that still looks classy, or something completely new. At one point, I had another idea of having a train-running-through-Runouwland thing where I would have the outer edge and buttons look like the interior of a train, and through the window would scroll the scenery which alternates between the mountains and the city. 2 or 3 layers of parallax, and that could look pretty cool. There's lots of things we could do.

Also of note, I decided to highlight the decisions made with each poll in the poll quote. Also updated all previous poll quotes.

Next point I'd like to discuss is should we decide the overall graphical theme before the overall layout, or should the layout be decided first and be a deciding factor on the theme, or are they linked enough to be considered one thing. I don't know, I'm pretty tired. Discuss.

Progress: Figure out what goes on the animated header: 3/3 polls Figure out what goes on the other part of the header: 2/2 polls Discuss graphics and other options: discussion Figure out how to arrange the two parts of the header: 0/1 polls Decide between graphic options: 0/1 polls Figure out any extra options: 0/1 polls Make the headers: 0/2 parts Install the headers: 0/1 process

[Kimonio]

One thing I have contemplated as a logo is taking "Runouw", and maybe doing the GT gear effect, to look like the site is mechanical almost? Depending on where the logo is positioned also would tell what color it'd be. Mountains, the suicide blue theme, but sky would be the acid green from years ago?

As for the "layout vs design" debate, that is iffy. Are we talking about layout like everything in general, or layout as in where everything is positioned? Either is important, but the layout of buttons and elements definitely should come before design. Always. Unless we're artistic geniuses and can spontaneously develop something.

I also have thought about and vaguely pitched an idea of a GT revamp, with a more spritey vibe and an enhanced plot. It would work well integrated into the "industrial" cityscape, and then transcend into the village-esque LL setting, then towards a mock Mushroom Kingdom(not using their elements of course, because legal reasons). In theory, it would work great with the train idea....or if I explained it at any time other than 3:15 in the morning?

We're getting there. Slowly, we're getting there.

[l.m]

Can we make this thing keep going now? Thanks